https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBrb0jIR2_8
I was listening to keep yourself alive from the new Rainbow release and around 1:16 when Freddie sings "All you people, keep yourself alive" you can hear autotune, not only there but throughout the whole song.
It`s also noticable on One Vision from the Friday wembley gig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-_38csjE4
Listen to "There`s only one direction"at 3:31... Autotune..
I`m terribly sorry for saying this, but i don`t mind a few overdubs here and there in the harmonies or a guitar part, but you just don`t under any circumstances put AUTO-TUNE or PITCH CORRECTION (Melodyne for example) on vocals. It takes away all the character.
Listen to Simon And Garfunkel from MSG in 2009, they sound like robots, listen to Good Evening New York City from Paul McCartney, during Drive My Car the autotune even malfunctions slightly.... It`s horrible.
I`d rather listen to a dvd were the vocals are untouched and out of tune with the harmonies or whatever than to a dvd were the vocals are robotic because of the society nowadays who wants everything perfect.
Like Glen Campbell said.
"Remember folks, if you do it perfect one time they want it perfect everytime"
Oscar J · Member since
The new release sounds pitch corrected throughout. I don't mind it if it's done in a non-obvious way (it's quite easy today to pitch correct while keeping the intonation and vibrato, I've been doing it myself). But there are spots on the Rainbow preview samples where it's been overdone.
That last quote is brilliant by the way.
BradMay · Member since
Yeah, i work with melodyne myself in the studio sometimes, and you can do it without it being noticable, this is just terrible.... It destroys the listening experience for me to be honest..
The last quote is fantastic yeah, too bad the guy has Alzheimers.
pittrek · Member since
Funny, I wanted to show KYA as a proof that there are no overdubs :-) His voice sounds like on the audience recordings from 1974
mooghead · Member since
As I have said before, I will be buying the bog standard cheapest release. What is the point of buying a live show when what you hear is nothing like what was actually performed on the night? Its worse than a tribute band.
BradMay · Member since
Nope, it doesn`t.. if you think it does then i think that you`re kinda well, tone deaf really... I had this discussion earlier on about the Friday gig from Wembley, he said that it sounds like the audience version as well, but i can really here the autotune taking a strole with it :p
Gregsynth · Member since
There's always gonna be corrections on official releases - this is nothing new.
Sometimes it's even used in places where it really didn't need to be there. There was this White Queen audio with pitch-correction all over it (from a Hammy 1975 source), and I checked the raw audio - Freddie didn't even sound THAT off. If it's like 5-10 cents off a note it's barely noticeable. I'd rather hear the raw audio.
Nitroboy · Member since
I don't hear any autotune on that particular line, if you're talking about the very tone of his voice, well, that's how he sounded back then
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]BradMay wrote:[/b]
It`s also noticable on One Vision from the Friday wembley gig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-_38csjE4
Listen to "There`s only one direction"at 3:31... Autotune..
[/QUOTE]
I just compared it to the audience tape, and you're bang on. Freddie didn't hit the note perfectly, but it still doesn't sound bad. It sounds real and human.
I wonder if Brian and Roger are aware that they're paying people to autotune Freddie Mercury..
Gregsynth · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]BradMay wrote:[/b]
It`s also noticable on One Vision from the Friday wembley gig. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-_38csjE4 Listen to "There`s only one direction"at 3:31... Autotune.. [/QUOTE]
I just compared it to the audience tape, and you're bang on. Freddie didn't hit the note perfectly, but it still doesn't sound bad. It sounds real and human.
I wonder if Brian and Roger are aware that they're paying people to autotune Freddie Mercury..[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I mean c'mon, the original note wasn't even that off to being with.
inu-liger · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b] There was this White Queen audio with pitch-correction all over it (from a Hammy 1975 source), and I checked the raw audio - Freddie didn't even sound THAT off. If it's like 5-10 cents off a note it's barely noticeable. I'd rather hear the raw audio.[/QUOTE]
That, and the drum fill leading into the guitar solo very inexplicably replaces the snare drum with toms. Which begs the question: Just, WHHHHHYYYYYY??
inu-liger · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
I wonder if Brian and Roger are aware that they're paying people to autotune Freddie Mercury..[/QUOTE]
Probably the same people that convinced them 4.0 Quad surround is better than 5.1 true surround...
jondickens1 · Member since
The worst case of autotune I've heard on the new Rainbow forthcoming release is on The Fairy FMS. Listen to the vocals "soldier, sailor, tinker Taylor, ploughboy, waiting to hear the sound".It's so bad it's laughable! Also listen to Radio ga ga on Hungarian Rhapsody on the vocal line of "who JUST don't know and just don't care". Not quite as bad in this case tho. Also the word "locality" in Fat bottomed girls live at the bowl. In the latter two cases I'm in favour of the pitch correction. But for FMS on the new Rainbow release it's FAR to obvious.
QueenFan76 · Member since
As long as he doesn't sound like a fucking robot or Stephen Hawking, which is what most artists these days sound like... I am ok with minor uses of it.
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]BradMay wrote:[/b]
It`s also noticable on One Vision from the Friday wembley gig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-_38csjE4
Listen to "There`s only one direction"at 3:31... Autotune..
[/QUOTE]
I wonder if Brian and Roger are aware that they're paying people to autotune Freddie Mercury..[/QUOTE]
That's a very good question. We've always previously been sold the story that with any releases, everything is put before Brian and Roger (and John?) and they decide what goes in the final product. However, having listened to Greg Brooks' recent podcast he states that he pulls everything together and then puts it before Justin and Kris on their audio team; they then whittle this down and discard a lot of material before before a short list even gets to the band. I wonder if this happens with stuff like The Rainbow, and they 'touch up' the audio before the band even hears it and they then just think "aren't we great" without realising the extremes of the alterations being made? Alternatively it could be completely driven by the band and they are the ones insisting that everything it tweaked and manipulated.
I'm thinking of composing an email for Brian's soapbox....!
