pittrek
Is "locality" autotuned? Really? I always thought it's copied & pasted from a studio take
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Ron
I actually don't hear a thing with regards to autotune! I must be blessed :)
pittrek
[QUOTE] [b]Ron wrote:[/b]
I actually don't hear a thing with regards to autotune! I must be blessed :)[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the club :-)
I actually don't hear a thing with regards to autotune! I must be blessed :)[/QUOTE]
Welcome to the club :-)
andyb1968
If its live, leave it alone ffs, you want to feel as if you're there, if you want perfection just listen to the albums !
BradMay
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Is "locality" autotuned? Really? I always thought it's copied & pasted from a studio take[/QUOTE]
Locality wasn`t autotuned, because that would make Freddie sound like an old african woman instantly (Because of formants, and the fact that you can`t alter 1 single vocal note more than -2 semitones before losing a lot of the formant)
That one was copy/pasted.
Is "locality" autotuned? Really? I always thought it's copied & pasted from a studio take[/QUOTE]
Locality wasn`t autotuned, because that would make Freddie sound like an old african woman instantly (Because of formants, and the fact that you can`t alter 1 single vocal note more than -2 semitones before losing a lot of the formant)
That one was copy/pasted.
BradMay
I also wrote it in the comment section on YouTube and i kid you not, one of the people said
" MasterHappychipmunk, autotune didn't even exists back then, dumbass. "
How can people be so dumb..
So i said:
"Bradley Van Dijk
It`s not "harmony vocal" i`m a singer myself although not a professional one, and this is autotune, and for the guy who said "Autotune didn`t even exist back then" well, i know that, Antares is available since `97 but Queen does occasionally use Autotune/pitch corrections post-production of course, and you can (throughout the song) hear the robotic character of the autotune on Freddie`s voice, they didn`t use it on Roger`s voice because he`s just singing the harmony part.
If you use autotune on BOTH voices you`ll get a flanger effect, and an even more obvious effect since they`re both pitch perfect.
It`s overdubbed and corrected, and i`m not trying to be a smart ass or anything, really, but this is a fact, because anyone who has a slight knowledge of music knows how autotune CAN sound, it can be very subtle, but éven with it`s subtleness it still gets rid of the character of the vocals.?"
Another guy responded with "It`s not autotune it`s called Vocal Harmony" i laughed so hard :')
" MasterHappychipmunk, autotune didn't even exists back then, dumbass. "
How can people be so dumb..
So i said:
"Bradley Van Dijk
It`s not "harmony vocal" i`m a singer myself although not a professional one, and this is autotune, and for the guy who said "Autotune didn`t even exist back then" well, i know that, Antares is available since `97 but Queen does occasionally use Autotune/pitch corrections post-production of course, and you can (throughout the song) hear the robotic character of the autotune on Freddie`s voice, they didn`t use it on Roger`s voice because he`s just singing the harmony part.
If you use autotune on BOTH voices you`ll get a flanger effect, and an even more obvious effect since they`re both pitch perfect.
It`s overdubbed and corrected, and i`m not trying to be a smart ass or anything, really, but this is a fact, because anyone who has a slight knowledge of music knows how autotune CAN sound, it can be very subtle, but éven with it`s subtleness it still gets rid of the character of the vocals.?"
Another guy responded with "It`s not autotune it`s called Vocal Harmony" i laughed so hard :')
Bad Seed
I watched the rough uncut show at the London exhibition a few years back and have mentioned numerous times on here that I very much doubted this show would ever see a release UNLESS heavily overdubbed or pitch corrected (freddie). For me it really needs the autotune as the lead vocal from the night was pretty hard to listen to, I stood and cringed through most of it. For me this new version is far more pleasing on the ears.
cmsdrums
[QUOTE] [b]Bad Seed wrote:[/b]
I watched the rough uncut show at the London exhibition a few years back and have mentioned numerous times on here that I very much doubted this show would ever see a release UNLESS heavily overdubbed or pitch corrected (freddie). For me it really needs the autotune as the lead vocal from the night was pretty hard to listen to, I stood and cringed through most of it. For me this new version is far more pleasing on the ears.[/QUOTE]
I recall your original post about that.
It does then beg the question as to why they chose to release it at all if it needed such major work - Hammersmith 79 for example would be far better vocally.
I suppose it possibly answers the question as to why they might have ditched the idea of releasing it back in '74 after they listened back to it?!?
I watched the rough uncut show at the London exhibition a few years back and have mentioned numerous times on here that I very much doubted this show would ever see a release UNLESS heavily overdubbed or pitch corrected (freddie). For me it really needs the autotune as the lead vocal from the night was pretty hard to listen to, I stood and cringed through most of it. For me this new version is far more pleasing on the ears.[/QUOTE]
I recall your original post about that.
It does then beg the question as to why they chose to release it at all if it needed such major work - Hammersmith 79 for example would be far better vocally.
I suppose it possibly answers the question as to why they might have ditched the idea of releasing it back in '74 after they listened back to it?!?
Bohardy
[QUOTE] [b]BradMay wrote:[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBrb0jIR2_8
I was listening to keep yourself alive from the new Rainbow release and around 1:16 when Freddie sings "All you people, keep yourself alive" you can hear autotune, not only there but throughout the whole song.
It`s also noticable on One Vision from the Friday wembley gig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-_38csjE4
Listen to "There`s only one direction"at 3:31... Autotune..
I`m terribly sorry for saying this, but i don`t mind a few overdubs here and there in the harmonies or a guitar part, but you just don`t under any circumstances put AUTO-TUNE or PITCH CORRECTION (Melodyne for example) on vocals. It takes away all the character.
Listen to Simon And Garfunkel from MSG in 2009, they sound like robots, listen to Good Evening New York City from Paul McCartney, during Drive My Car the autotune even malfunctions slightly.... It`s horrible.
I`d rather listen to a dvd were the vocals are untouched and out of tune with the harmonies or whatever than to a dvd were the vocals are robotic because of the society nowadays who wants everything perfect.
Like Glen Campbell said.
"Remember folks, if you do it perfect one time they want it perfect everytime" [/QUOTE]
Have just listened to Drive My Car and the S&G MSG stuff and see what you're saying. Christ, it's awful. Who wants to hear that? Who thinks it sounds good? Some people seriously need to get their ears fixed.
The Rainbow stuff isn't so noticeable for me, thankfully, but it is there, no doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBrb0jIR2_8
I was listening to keep yourself alive from the new Rainbow release and around 1:16 when Freddie sings "All you people, keep yourself alive" you can hear autotune, not only there but throughout the whole song.
It`s also noticable on One Vision from the Friday wembley gig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-_38csjE4
Listen to "There`s only one direction"at 3:31... Autotune..
I`m terribly sorry for saying this, but i don`t mind a few overdubs here and there in the harmonies or a guitar part, but you just don`t under any circumstances put AUTO-TUNE or PITCH CORRECTION (Melodyne for example) on vocals. It takes away all the character.
Listen to Simon And Garfunkel from MSG in 2009, they sound like robots, listen to Good Evening New York City from Paul McCartney, during Drive My Car the autotune even malfunctions slightly.... It`s horrible.
I`d rather listen to a dvd were the vocals are untouched and out of tune with the harmonies or whatever than to a dvd were the vocals are robotic because of the society nowadays who wants everything perfect.
Like Glen Campbell said.
"Remember folks, if you do it perfect one time they want it perfect everytime" [/QUOTE]
Have just listened to Drive My Car and the S&G MSG stuff and see what you're saying. Christ, it's awful. Who wants to hear that? Who thinks it sounds good? Some people seriously need to get their ears fixed.
The Rainbow stuff isn't so noticeable for me, thankfully, but it is there, no doubt.
cmsdrums
I'm the opposite of BradMay, in that if they really must muck about with it at all, then a slight autotune on a vocal that was almost right is bearable (if well done), whereas adding harmonies or extra guitar that simply weren't in the show on the night really is, to me, a misrepresentation. I suppose I can live with patching up parts by flying in the same parts from another show as at least they are still live, but augmenting harmonies with extra parts so you have four or five parts on the track when only three of then were singing is just wrong.
pittrek
I have now listed to "All you people keep yourself alive" about 10 times in a row and I STILL can't find ANY trace of autotune. Could you guys tell me what should I be concentrating on?
Barry Durex
^ Why are you desperately trying to hear for something negative?
It sounds good to me as well, so just enjoy it.
It sounds good to me as well, so just enjoy it.
pittrek
I'm not. I'm just trying to understand what the ... are these people talking about :-)
MercurialFreddie
[QUOTE] [b]Bad Seed wrote:[/b]
I watched the rough uncut show at the London exhibition a few years back and have mentioned numerous times on here that I very much doubted this show would ever see a release UNLESS heavily overdubbed or pitch corrected (freddie). For me it really needs the autotune as the lead vocal from the night was pretty hard to listen to, I stood and cringed through most of it. For me this new version is far more pleasing on the ears.[/QUOTE]
Weren't overdubs recorded back in the 74' as this was "to-be" their first live album ?
Was Freddie's vocal performance really that bad on the rough uncut show ?
I watched the rough uncut show at the London exhibition a few years back and have mentioned numerous times on here that I very much doubted this show would ever see a release UNLESS heavily overdubbed or pitch corrected (freddie). For me it really needs the autotune as the lead vocal from the night was pretty hard to listen to, I stood and cringed through most of it. For me this new version is far more pleasing on the ears.[/QUOTE]
Weren't overdubs recorded back in the 74' as this was "to-be" their first live album ?
Was Freddie's vocal performance really that bad on the rough uncut show ?
Negative Creep
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
I have now listed to "All you people keep yourself alive" about 10 times in a row and I STILL can't find ANY trace of autotune. Could you guys tell me what should I be concentrating on?[/QUOTE]
Me neither. Listened multiple times with headphones and didn't pick up any autotune - if it's used it is incredibly subtle and only the anally retentive would notice.
I have now listed to "All you people keep yourself alive" about 10 times in a row and I STILL can't find ANY trace of autotune. Could you guys tell me what should I be concentrating on?[/QUOTE]
Me neither. Listened multiple times with headphones and didn't pick up any autotune - if it's used it is incredibly subtle and only the anally retentive would notice.