GERRYISADICK
Who cares if it is overdubbed its a 70s concert you've moaned and groaned about not getting one and when you finally get one you all complain like whiny little bitches get over it
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pittrek
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
[url=http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o]http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o [/url]
Some painfully obvious auto tuning in MOTBQ - have a listen at the word "right". Hope this can remove your doubt Nitroboy.[/QUOTE]
Definitely not PAINFULLY OBVIOUS. But yes, the "t" at the end sounds different from the rest of the word, "something" has been done to it.
[url=http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o]http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o [/url]
Some painfully obvious auto tuning in MOTBQ - have a listen at the word "right". Hope this can remove your doubt Nitroboy.[/QUOTE]
Definitely not PAINFULLY OBVIOUS. But yes, the "t" at the end sounds different from the rest of the word, "something" has been done to it.
Oscar J
It's not overdubbing - it's AUTOTUNE, Einstein. You know the stuff Justin Bieber is using?
I'm not whining like a little bitch, I'm simply analysing and expressing surprise over the fact that Taylor and May are giving the green light to stuff like this. Imagine Led Zeppelin or The Who auto tuning live concerts. Laughable!
I'm not whining like a little bitch, I'm simply analysing and expressing surprise over the fact that Taylor and May are giving the green light to stuff like this. Imagine Led Zeppelin or The Who auto tuning live concerts. Laughable!
cmsdrums
This topic is ironic in light of the extracts from the recent Redbeard interview that have just been added to Brian's site:
"Forty years ago when a young London quartet called Queen headlined the venerable Rainbow Theater there, recording the performance on audio and film was a daunting task, both technologically and financially. Live recording then was much more art than science, no do-overs, no digital tricks, nowhere to hide".
And
“There weren’t any tricks to be had. It’s all live and dangerous.....”
Some fibbing going on here?!?
"Forty years ago when a young London quartet called Queen headlined the venerable Rainbow Theater there, recording the performance on audio and film was a daunting task, both technologically and financially. Live recording then was much more art than science, no do-overs, no digital tricks, nowhere to hide".
And
“There weren’t any tricks to be had. It’s all live and dangerous.....”
Some fibbing going on here?!?
Oscar J
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[b]pittrek wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
[url=http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o]http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o [/url]
Some painfully obvious auto tuning in MOTBQ - have a listen at the word "right". Hope this can remove your doubt Nitroboy.[/QUOTE]
Definitely not PAINFULLY OBVIOUS. But yes, the "t" at the end sounds different from the rest of the word, "something" has been done to it.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not the "t" that's the issue here. It's that the slide between the D4 and E4 during the word "right" has been eliminated by the auto tune plugin, making the vocal snapping directly from the D to the E in a very "digital" manner. I am really surprised that you don't hear it! You seem to have very sensitive ears otherwise.
[b]pittrek wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
[url=http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o]http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o [/url]
Some painfully obvious auto tuning in MOTBQ - have a listen at the word "right". Hope this can remove your doubt Nitroboy.[/QUOTE]
Definitely not PAINFULLY OBVIOUS. But yes, the "t" at the end sounds different from the rest of the word, "something" has been done to it.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not the "t" that's the issue here. It's that the slide between the D4 and E4 during the word "right" has been eliminated by the auto tune plugin, making the vocal snapping directly from the D to the E in a very "digital" manner. I am really surprised that you don't hear it! You seem to have very sensitive ears otherwise.
Gregsynth
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[b]Oscar J wrote: [/b] [url=http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o]http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o [/url]
Some painfully obvious auto tuning in MOTBQ - have a listen at the word "right". Hope this can remove your doubt Nitroboy.[/QUOTE]
I can definitely hear it there (has the digital/artificial artifacts).
I looked at the original video for that line - and it didn't even need to be fixed to be honest (it's not even that off). In live shows - nobody sings in tune 100% of the time (even the best singers). If Freddie sang a completely wrong note - then it can be understandable - but if it's off by like 10 cents - just leave it! It's wouldn't even be noticeable!
[b]Oscar J wrote: [/b] [url=http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o]http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o [/url]
Some painfully obvious auto tuning in MOTBQ - have a listen at the word "right". Hope this can remove your doubt Nitroboy.[/QUOTE]
I can definitely hear it there (has the digital/artificial artifacts).
I looked at the original video for that line - and it didn't even need to be fixed to be honest (it's not even that off). In live shows - nobody sings in tune 100% of the time (even the best singers). If Freddie sang a completely wrong note - then it can be understandable - but if it's off by like 10 cents - just leave it! It's wouldn't even be noticeable!
Oscar J
Yeah, though abut that too. Couldn't remember any issues with the original vocals.
Hey Greg, have you heard the full March version of Seven Seas Of Rhye on the iHeart Radio broadcast? I remember that performance being one of your fav's. it's even better than i remembered it!
Hey Greg, have you heard the full March version of Seven Seas Of Rhye on the iHeart Radio broadcast? I remember that performance being one of your fav's. it's even better than i remembered it!
Gregsynth
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[b]Oscar J wrote: [/b] Yeah, though abut that too. Couldn't remember any issues with the original vocals.
Hey Greg, have you heard the full March version of Seven Seas Of Rhye on the iHeart Radio broadcast? I remember that performance being one of your fav's. it's even better than i remembered it![/QUOTE]
Yeah - that's quite an excellent version (one of my go-to versions)! So glad this stuff is being officially released!
[b]Oscar J wrote: [/b] Yeah, though abut that too. Couldn't remember any issues with the original vocals.
Hey Greg, have you heard the full March version of Seven Seas Of Rhye on the iHeart Radio broadcast? I remember that performance being one of your fav's. it's even better than i remembered it![/QUOTE]
Yeah - that's quite an excellent version (one of my go-to versions)! So glad this stuff is being officially released!
tomchristie22
I think we can all agree that it'll be a terrific release, all vocal qualms aside.
Oscar J
Certainly. Can't WAIT.
Wilki Amieva
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Wilki Amieva wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Wait a moment - the CD has a DIFFERENT mix than the DVD/BD?[/QUOTE]
I haven't implied that!
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Well your wrote they have done a lots of editing on the November show but on the DVD/BD the audio is "quite raw", which sounded like you're talking about 2 different mixes. That's the reason for my confused question :-)[/QUOTE]
I meant the sound is quite raw. If you edit audio from two raw sources, you still have raw sound.
That said, I haven't compared the audio from the BD/DVD with the one in the CD, so I cannot say I am 100% sure it has an identical mix.
[QUOTE] [b]Wilki Amieva wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Wait a moment - the CD has a DIFFERENT mix than the DVD/BD?[/QUOTE]
I haven't implied that!
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Well your wrote they have done a lots of editing on the November show but on the DVD/BD the audio is "quite raw", which sounded like you're talking about 2 different mixes. That's the reason for my confused question :-)[/QUOTE]
I meant the sound is quite raw. If you edit audio from two raw sources, you still have raw sound.
That said, I haven't compared the audio from the BD/DVD with the one in the CD, so I cannot say I am 100% sure it has an identical mix.
thomasquinn 32989
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
[url=http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o]http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o [/url]
Some painfully obvious auto tuning in MOTBQ - have a listen at the word "right". Hope this can remove your doubt Nitroboy.[/QUOTE]
Definitely not PAINFULLY OBVIOUS. But yes, the "t" at the end sounds different from the rest of the word, "something" has been done to it.[/QUOTE]
That is so subtle it could be totally untouched or slightly edited in any of a number of ways. This is definitely NOT proof of autotune or melodyne. I stick to my original point, that TS is suffering from confirmation bias.
Oh, and I think the 't' sound is just a problem Freddie often had - harsh consonants, particularly at the end of words, because he lisped slightly. Microphones are horribly unmerciful in emphasizing such flaws.
[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]
[url=http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o]http://clyp.it/mbzijd2o [/url]
Some painfully obvious auto tuning in MOTBQ - have a listen at the word "right". Hope this can remove your doubt Nitroboy.[/QUOTE]
Definitely not PAINFULLY OBVIOUS. But yes, the "t" at the end sounds different from the rest of the word, "something" has been done to it.[/QUOTE]
That is so subtle it could be totally untouched or slightly edited in any of a number of ways. This is definitely NOT proof of autotune or melodyne. I stick to my original point, that TS is suffering from confirmation bias.
Oh, and I think the 't' sound is just a problem Freddie often had - harsh consonants, particularly at the end of words, because he lisped slightly. Microphones are horribly unmerciful in emphasizing such flaws.
Nitroboy
I do hear some artifacting on the word 'right'.
thomasquinn 32989
I hear *something*, but it's not nearly obvious enough to make me go out and say "yes, that's definitely autotune/melodyne". I'm not even sure if what I hear resulted from the digital processing and editing or if it's something that's present on the original recording. I'm quite willing to accept that melodyne has been used, but I'm convinced it's rather more subtle than some people are suggesting. The problem is - if you work with melodyne a lot, you'll hear when it's used. However, you're also likely to hear a load of false positives *because* it's subtle.
BETA215
I'm not a autotune/melodyne expert, but that "right" is clearly digitally distorted, like the ploughboy in TFFMS. Can be unintentionally according to thomasquinn, but we have a lot of autotune/melodyne/distortions in the songs. Don't looks like that was present in the recording.
I'm sure I don't hear false positives. I mean, my first time hearing autotune/melodyne was with the Fairy Feller's sample. And I hear it clearly, even before I know that was autotune. And I start researching and now I know what I hear is digitally distorted.
Summary: To me, that is digitally distorted.
I, Pittrek, The Real Wizard, and lots of people, would love if someone, after the Rainbow release, leaks the full concert without overdubs and distortions, like the Wembley's concerts.
I'm sure I don't hear false positives. I mean, my first time hearing autotune/melodyne was with the Fairy Feller's sample. And I hear it clearly, even before I know that was autotune. And I start researching and now I know what I hear is digitally distorted.
Summary: To me, that is digitally distorted.
I, Pittrek, The Real Wizard, and lots of people, would love if someone, after the Rainbow release, leaks the full concert without overdubs and distortions, like the Wembley's concerts.