[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
I guess that's my ending Question. Do you know Freddie Mercury was Gay? [/QUOTE]
Really, Mike?
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[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]The same thing I said years ago when Adam started singing with Queen. I wanted to see what Queen fans thought of Adam. I had never seen such hate-filled comments in my life! And I've been defending Adam here ever since.[/QUOTE]
Why bother "defending" Lambert when people don't like him? Okay, in future, I'll shove Mike Patton videos down your throat. That'll TOTALLY change your mind. Get it?
I can't believe you've spent years wasting your time.
You ought to go listen to Sheer Heart Attack instead. It's excellent.
Why bother "defending" Lambert when people don't like him? Okay, in future, I'll shove Mike Patton videos down your throat. That'll TOTALLY change your mind. Get it?
I can't believe you've spent years wasting your time.
You ought to go listen to Sheer Heart Attack instead. It's excellent.
Day dop
[QUOTE] [b]someonewholikesadam wrote:[/b]
Mike, Mike,Mike,
[b]
I never said all who didn't like Adam were either Queen fans or old white men or homophobic. I said that demographic accounted for a large number of people who don't like Adam. [/b] Yes, there are people who just don't like his voice. But I don't like lots of singers. I don't resort to calling them talentless because I don't like them. THAT is narrow-minded.
Oscar J., aren't you going to put down your popcorn, get out of your chair and defend me?
I will tell you one thing that is a fact, though. I've never gone on fan sites until Adam Lambert and then Queen when Adam joined them. I have never encountered a nastier, more miserable, rude group of fans than Queen fans. Not all of you but a great many. Adam fans, by and large, are MUCH nicer and more courteous and fun.[/QUOTE]
No you didn't. Fortuantely, that part was quoted. You wrote, out of the blue - "I LOVE HIS VOICE. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY CAMP (NO PUN INTENDED) AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN YOURS (MOSTLY QUEEN FANS AND OLDER WHITE MEN)"
Those were your exact words - in capitals.
Also, being "open minded" is about evaluating something and deciding that you don't like it, which is what I did when it came to Lambert.
Rationalwiki puts it well.
"All that open mindedness requires is that one considers an idea or proposal and does not reject it outright before any considerations or evaluations are made. Having an open mind does not mean accepting any new idea as true as soon as it is presented. If you consider an idea, and then reject it based on evidence or similar criteria, you do not have a closed mind. Lack of an "open mind", based on the misunderstanding between consideration and acceptance of new ideas, is therefore a common but groundless criticism of skeptics. Skeptical open-mindedness differs from credulous open-mindedness in that the skeptic has effective mechanisms for assessing ideas and rejecting those that are found wanting.[2]
Usually, and quite ironically, people who go around accusing others of being closed minded are actually more closed minded themselves."
Mike, Mike,Mike,
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I never said all who didn't like Adam were either Queen fans or old white men or homophobic. I said that demographic accounted for a large number of people who don't like Adam. [/b] Yes, there are people who just don't like his voice. But I don't like lots of singers. I don't resort to calling them talentless because I don't like them. THAT is narrow-minded.
Oscar J., aren't you going to put down your popcorn, get out of your chair and defend me?
I will tell you one thing that is a fact, though. I've never gone on fan sites until Adam Lambert and then Queen when Adam joined them. I have never encountered a nastier, more miserable, rude group of fans than Queen fans. Not all of you but a great many. Adam fans, by and large, are MUCH nicer and more courteous and fun.[/QUOTE]
No you didn't. Fortuantely, that part was quoted. You wrote, out of the blue - "I LOVE HIS VOICE. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY CAMP (NO PUN INTENDED) AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN YOURS (MOSTLY QUEEN FANS AND OLDER WHITE MEN)"
Those were your exact words - in capitals.
Also, being "open minded" is about evaluating something and deciding that you don't like it, which is what I did when it came to Lambert.
Rationalwiki puts it well.
"All that open mindedness requires is that one considers an idea or proposal and does not reject it outright before any considerations or evaluations are made. Having an open mind does not mean accepting any new idea as true as soon as it is presented. If you consider an idea, and then reject it based on evidence or similar criteria, you do not have a closed mind. Lack of an "open mind", based on the misunderstanding between consideration and acceptance of new ideas, is therefore a common but groundless criticism of skeptics. Skeptical open-mindedness differs from credulous open-mindedness in that the skeptic has effective mechanisms for assessing ideas and rejecting those that are found wanting.[2]
Usually, and quite ironically, people who go around accusing others of being closed minded are actually more closed minded themselves."
someonewholikesadam
MOSTLY is not ALL. And I stand by my statement.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers actually copied Faith No More? Interesting.
Oh, and the Lionel Richie song? Beautiful! Truly. Sounds just Lionel Richie. No originality there.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers actually copied Faith No More? Interesting.
Oh, and the Lionel Richie song? Beautiful! Truly. Sounds just Lionel Richie. No originality there.
Day dop
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] MOSTLY is not ALL. And I stand by my statement.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers actually copied Faith No More? Interesting.
Oh, and the Lionel Richie song? Beautiful! Truly. Sounds just Lionel Richie. No originality there.[/QUOTE]
FNM and RHCP have very few similarities, but one of them has a far better singer. RHCP became mediocre, whereas FNM didn't.
Mike Patton sounds like Lionel Richie if you have shit in your ears. Why am I not surprised by that?
I still don't know why you brought skin colour and homophobia into a conversation where it wasn't necessary whatsoever. You don't even know why yourself, do you?
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] MOSTLY is not ALL. And I stand by my statement.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers actually copied Faith No More? Interesting.
Oh, and the Lionel Richie song? Beautiful! Truly. Sounds just Lionel Richie. No originality there.[/QUOTE]
FNM and RHCP have very few similarities, but one of them has a far better singer. RHCP became mediocre, whereas FNM didn't.
Mike Patton sounds like Lionel Richie if you have shit in your ears. Why am I not surprised by that?
I still don't know why you brought skin colour and homophobia into a conversation where it wasn't necessary whatsoever. You don't even know why yourself, do you?
someonewholikesadam
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] MOSTLY is not ALL. And I stand by my statement.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers actually copied Faith No More? Interesting.
Oh, and the Lionel Richie song? Beautiful! Truly. Sounds just Lionel Richie. No originality there.[/QUOTE]
FNM and RHCP have very few similarities, but one of them has a far better singer. RHCP became mediocre, whereas FNM didn't.
Mike Patton sounds like Lionel Richie if you have shit in your ears. Why am I not surprised by that?
I still don't know why you brought skin colour and homophobia into a conversation where it wasn't necessary whatsoever. You don't even know why yourself, do you?[/QUOTE]
I meant the Epic song.
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] MOSTLY is not ALL. And I stand by my statement.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers actually copied Faith No More? Interesting.
Oh, and the Lionel Richie song? Beautiful! Truly. Sounds just Lionel Richie. No originality there.[/QUOTE]
FNM and RHCP have very few similarities, but one of them has a far better singer. RHCP became mediocre, whereas FNM didn't.
Mike Patton sounds like Lionel Richie if you have shit in your ears. Why am I not surprised by that?
I still don't know why you brought skin colour and homophobia into a conversation where it wasn't necessary whatsoever. You don't even know why yourself, do you?[/QUOTE]
I meant the Epic song.
Sheer Brass Neck
"I've never heard of Mike Patton." "I'm not really a rock fan." "Adam is the best singer in the world today although I haven't heard the other good people." "Adam's Whole Lotta Love is amazing because Paula Abdul said so."
Adam Lambert has a nice voice with big range. As you are a non-rock fan, SWLA, please allow me to tell you, as someone who believes AL has a nice voice, he can't sing rock. You posting videos means as much as me posting videos to pavarottizone.com that Freddie was one of the greatest opera singers of all time. He wasn't. He was an amazing pop/rock singer who did a damned good job trying his hand at something out of his element. That's why your guy is doing with Queen. He is in over his head singing rock but does great with a ballad or slower pop song. No shame in that but he's not even close to a rock singer. If you don't agree that's cool, posting a million YouTube vids won't change a single opinion about him. He is so, so, so weak on It's Late it's a joke, but if that's the definitive version who am I to say he blows Freddie away?
Adam Lambert has a nice voice with big range. As you are a non-rock fan, SWLA, please allow me to tell you, as someone who believes AL has a nice voice, he can't sing rock. You posting videos means as much as me posting videos to pavarottizone.com that Freddie was one of the greatest opera singers of all time. He wasn't. He was an amazing pop/rock singer who did a damned good job trying his hand at something out of his element. That's why your guy is doing with Queen. He is in over his head singing rock but does great with a ballad or slower pop song. No shame in that but he's not even close to a rock singer. If you don't agree that's cool, posting a million YouTube vids won't change a single opinion about him. He is so, so, so weak on It's Late it's a joke, but if that's the definitive version who am I to say he blows Freddie away?
Day dop
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] MOSTLY is not ALL. And I stand by my statement.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers actually copied Faith No More? Interesting.
Oh, and the Lionel Richie song? Beautiful! Truly. Sounds just Lionel Richie. No originality there.[/QUOTE]
FNM and RHCP have very few similarities, but one of them has a far better singer. RHCP became mediocre, whereas FNM didn't.
Mike Patton sounds like Lionel Richie if you have shit in your ears. Why am I not surprised by that?
I still don't know why you brought skin colour and homophobia into a conversation where it wasn't necessary whatsoever. You don't even know why yourself, do you?[/QUOTE]
I meant the Epic song. [/QUOTE]
Like I said, they had similarities. It was the late 80s / early 90s after all. I've never really rated the Epic or the album it was from that much. They got better with the next album and throughout the 90s and beyond.
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] MOSTLY is not ALL. And I stand by my statement.
So Red Hot Chili Peppers actually copied Faith No More? Interesting.
Oh, and the Lionel Richie song? Beautiful! Truly. Sounds just Lionel Richie. No originality there.[/QUOTE]
FNM and RHCP have very few similarities, but one of them has a far better singer. RHCP became mediocre, whereas FNM didn't.
Mike Patton sounds like Lionel Richie if you have shit in your ears. Why am I not surprised by that?
I still don't know why you brought skin colour and homophobia into a conversation where it wasn't necessary whatsoever. You don't even know why yourself, do you?[/QUOTE]
I meant the Epic song. [/QUOTE]
Like I said, they had similarities. It was the late 80s / early 90s after all. I've never really rated the Epic or the album it was from that much. They got better with the next album and throughout the 90s and beyond.
someonewholikesadam
Oh, wait. Are you saying the song Epic was never sung by the RHCP?? I always thought it was them. It was always FNM?
Day dop
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] Oh, wait. Are you saying the song Epic was never sung by the RHCP?? I always thought it was them. It was always FNM?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Epic is a Faith No More song. It's mostly rap, not singing on that track. Patton also changed his vocal style dramatically after that album, for the better. Or maybe he changed it temporarily or The Real Thing (the album Epic was from).
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] Oh, wait. Are you saying the song Epic was never sung by the RHCP?? I always thought it was them. It was always FNM?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Epic is a Faith No More song. It's mostly rap, not singing on that track. Patton also changed his vocal style dramatically after that album, for the better. Or maybe he changed it temporarily or The Real Thing (the album Epic was from).
someonewholikesadam
I can appreciate good classic rock. Not my favorite genre. But a great song is a great song. I grew up with Pink Floyd and Led Z. My 18 year old plays classic rock all day long. In my book Adam IS a really good rock singer. I know I get a bit overzealous in posting videos. But, hey, that's me.
someonewholikesadam
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] Oh, wait. Are you saying the song Epic was never sung by the RHCP?? I always thought it was them. It was always FNM?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Epic is a Faith No More song. It's mostly rap, not singing on that track. Patton also changed his vocal style dramatically after that album, for the better. Or maybe he changed it temporarily or The Real Thing (the album Epic was from).[/QUOTE]
See? You can teach an old dog new tricks.
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] Oh, wait. Are you saying the song Epic was never sung by the RHCP?? I always thought it was them. It was always FNM?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Epic is a Faith No More song. It's mostly rap, not singing on that track. Patton also changed his vocal style dramatically after that album, for the better. Or maybe he changed it temporarily or The Real Thing (the album Epic was from).[/QUOTE]
See? You can teach an old dog new tricks.
Day dop
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
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[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] Oh, wait. Are you saying the song Epic was never sung by the RHCP?? I always thought it was them. It was always FNM?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Epic is a Faith No More song. It's mostly rap, not singing on that track. Patton also changed his vocal style dramatically after that album, for the better. Or maybe he changed it temporarily or The Real Thing (the album Epic was from).[/QUOTE]
See? You can teach an old dog new tricks. [/QUOTE]
I'm serious here. If you're here only to defend Lambert, then you're wasting your time. You won't change peoples minds on Lambert. They either think he's okay for the job of filling in for Freddie, or they don't like him. If they don't like him, you won't change their minds.
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]someonewholikesadam wrote: [/b] Oh, wait. Are you saying the song Epic was never sung by the RHCP?? I always thought it was them. It was always FNM?[/QUOTE]
Yes, Epic is a Faith No More song. It's mostly rap, not singing on that track. Patton also changed his vocal style dramatically after that album, for the better. Or maybe he changed it temporarily or The Real Thing (the album Epic was from).[/QUOTE]
See? You can teach an old dog new tricks. [/QUOTE]
I'm serious here. If you're here only to defend Lambert, then you're wasting your time. You won't change peoples minds on Lambert. They either think he's okay for the job of filling in for Freddie, or they don't like him. If they don't like him, you won't change their minds.
Sheer Brass Neck
^^^
And for me that's the thing with the Glambert's. If you have no point of comparison how can you announce someone as the best anything? When I saw that comment on It's Late on YouTube from an AL fan saying the two songs (Spread Your Wings and It's Late) never did much for her, but when AL sang them she loved them and it turned her into a puddle I realized that the poor lady knew nothing about music. Opinions are as common as asshols, but It's Late was called "one of the greatest three chord wonders since The Who", and Freddie sang it like a "mighty tree was falling." It is one of the great rock vocals ever, and it's a hidden gem. Again, I like AL, seems like a nice guy, lovely voice for his style, but he has no oomph, or heft, or gravitas when singing rock songs. How could he? He's not a songwriter and his emotions are other people's emotions. That TwoFux mess has five writers. What part is AL's? Who is he as an artist? What songs mean something to him? He's an interpreter with a good voice. Maybe not a dime a dozen but he is leagues below Freddie Mercury. Who was also gay. and not white. So my bias against AL (isn't a bias) but based on fact HE IS NOT A CLASSIC ROCK SINGER NO MATTER WHAT STUPID PEOPLE SAY.
Otherwise hope you're well SWLA :)
And for me that's the thing with the Glambert's. If you have no point of comparison how can you announce someone as the best anything? When I saw that comment on It's Late on YouTube from an AL fan saying the two songs (Spread Your Wings and It's Late) never did much for her, but when AL sang them she loved them and it turned her into a puddle I realized that the poor lady knew nothing about music. Opinions are as common as asshols, but It's Late was called "one of the greatest three chord wonders since The Who", and Freddie sang it like a "mighty tree was falling." It is one of the great rock vocals ever, and it's a hidden gem. Again, I like AL, seems like a nice guy, lovely voice for his style, but he has no oomph, or heft, or gravitas when singing rock songs. How could he? He's not a songwriter and his emotions are other people's emotions. That TwoFux mess has five writers. What part is AL's? Who is he as an artist? What songs mean something to him? He's an interpreter with a good voice. Maybe not a dime a dozen but he is leagues below Freddie Mercury. Who was also gay. and not white. So my bias against AL (isn't a bias) but based on fact HE IS NOT A CLASSIC ROCK SINGER NO MATTER WHAT STUPID PEOPLE SAY.
Otherwise hope you're well SWLA :)
cmsdrums
I'm really not interested in reading over seven pages of 'Adam is shit / Adam is God' posts, but based on the thread title, and within my area of knowledge of 'rock' singers, two that get very little exposure outside their own band fans are Danny Bowes of Thunder and Danny Vaughn of Tyketto. Bothe wonderful vocalists who have incredible ranges and feel, without faltering or having to switch to falsetto at the top end.
If you're looking for a firm or specific Queen connection, Vaughn also sings in The Ultimate Eagles which featured Jamie Moses when the band was first put together, and he also featured as a vocalist in a symphonic tribute to Queen gig this weekend in Spain, which also featured Patti Russo who has guested before with Brian and Roger.
If you're looking for a firm or specific Queen connection, Vaughn also sings in The Ultimate Eagles which featured Jamie Moses when the band was first put together, and he also featured as a vocalist in a symphonic tribute to Queen gig this weekend in Spain, which also featured Patti Russo who has guested before with Brian and Roger.