What is more, now that we've seen the best looking bits from the documentary (HD and in colour)... would this mean that also "Champions" recording (staged) session was also primarily shot in colour but something happened to the tapes and they used the safety copy ?
Biggus Dickus · Member since
^^ It's interesting that some of the footage that's b/w in the new documentary was in colour in Days Of Our Lives documentary. For example the footage of a Queen crew member walking towards the stage wearing a Queen jacket. That footage was in colour on DOOL but in b/w on the NOTW doc.
Chopin1995 · Member since
Is is because The American Dream "new" documantary is actually 1977 version which was finished back then but simply not released until this year, and by 2011 they just found better sources and quality of some footage?
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Chopin1995 wrote:[/b]
Is is because The American Dream "new" documantary is actually 1977 version which was finished back then but simply not released until this year, and by 2011 they just found better sources and quality of some footage?[/QUOTE]
As far as I know it was completed recently.
It wouldn't be the first time they used imperfect footage for an official release or documentary. Maybe it just degraded over the last few years, and they had to use a safety b/w copy?
Togg · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Chopin1995 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Chopin1995 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
That "That's a lovely feel, exactly as it should be" comment seemed to me that it was just added on top of the footage, not being a part of the original audio. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, I also think it was added. What's more after the last chord (just before this comment) Freddie plays some passage but it looks different to what he plays on the video. It sounds like he plays F minor arpeggiated chords but it looks like he plays something completely different on the video. I'm talking about BBC4 version (9:55), I don't know if DVD version is the same at this moment.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. His playing doesn't match the audio. And if you look carefully, Freddie's mouth isn't even moving in sync with the 'lovely feel' comment.[/QUOTE]
And when he is saying "that's" he just smiles on the video.
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That is nonesense, you can't see his face as he turns away from the camera, I've watched it a dozen times after reading that and you can't see his mouth at all
Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
I've watched it a dozen times after reading that and you can't see his mouth at all
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Translation: there's no proof the audio comes from that particular moment.
Biggus Dickus · Member since
I guess all people just aren't equally observant.
Togg · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
I've watched it a dozen times after reading that and you can't see his mouth at all
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Translation: there's no proof the audio comes from that particular moment.[/QUOTE]
No... but making statements such as that equally doesn't help, and is misleading, you can't see his mouth move, his head is facing the opposite direction and you can't see if he is speaking at all, you can't even see his jaw line accurately...
It's a bit of an ellaborate conspiracy if you are suggesting they found the exact moment he turns away to insert a comment to try to make it look like a proper take, why the hell would you go to all that trouble?
They had the cooment on tape clearly so he said it at some point, yes? so obviously the taped comment comes from a point at which they were doing an early run through of 'something' It seems to me to be a lot of hard work to gig it out and place it there for no good reason, the clip holds up perfectly well without it.
So no it doesn't 'prove' anything, but then again we don't have definitive proof of much to do with Freddie if you are going to start stating footage is faked...
Again, it's not proof, but equally there's no proof he didn't say it there and then, because his mouth is not visable
Togg · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
I guess all people just aren't equally observant.[/QUOTE]
Please then show me a screen shot or still photograph of the moment you can see his mouth 'smiling'....?
Biggus Dickus · Member since
Right after the little run he does on his right hand on the keys he hits the keys again and you can see him smile and "talk" at the same time right before he does that. That piano run doesn't match the audio plus after the run you can see him hit the keys again with his hand but there's no sound of the keys at all. No sound of piano at that point because the fake added talk line is over the footage at that point.
Togg · Member since
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This is the exact moment the comment starts, he then turns fully away from the camera until just before the end of his sentence, at no point can you see his mouth or jaw, partly due to the studio light to the right of him and partly due to his face turned the wrong way... there is NO smile visable, show me the shot of him smiling???? As for the piano, I can't see any point where his keys are not making a sound, maybe your audio needs adjusting, there's faint key noise all along the run, and the hand shapes all seem fine to me (however I'm not much of a keyboard player)
Biggus Dickus · Member since
This is the exact point he smiles as you can see his upper teeth. This is also the point when he hits the keys without making a sound. Sure the picture quality isn't the best, but it's much more visible when watching the video.
If you can't see that the video doesn't match the audio when he plays the piano run and hits the keyboards without a sound after that, then I'm not surprised you can't see him smiling either.
What explanation is there that the audio isn't on sync during these bits, when it's perfectly in sync when they play the song? The only explanation I can think of is that the audio isn't the same that it was during the actual performance of the song. This is only my opinion, if you don't agree with me that's just fine.
Biggus Dickus · Member since
Oh another observation. You've got exactly the same 'lovely feel'-comment by Freddie at the end of WATC raw version, yet the piano bits he plays in that after the song are completely different to the bits he plays at the documentary after the song. How is this possible? Wasn't it said that the WATC-footage was filmed during the BBC session? How could two different session have exactly the same comment by Freddie? It's so fishy it ranks.
