I think you guys are really being unfair. How do YOU know how she feels. You are back to your old tricks, Icy.
"Don't forget, AL can do everything *sarcasm*.
And you are right. Even Brian's and Roger's world don't revolve around AL. Nor should it. I do think AL needs Brian and Roger a heck of a lot more than they need him."
Then you wonder why she isn't happy with you. You are unwilling yourself to give it a rest. As far as who needs whom, I guess I would go with Brian and Roger who say they would never be touring without Adam. Since touring is what seems to make them happy, I would say Adam is integral to QAL. It would be impossible to see it any other way based on Brian and Roger's statement, not what you think is true, even though, Icy, you have no actual insight into what is going on. Your view is only your opinion, as is Caroline's. My opinion is that Brian and Roger can't tour without Adam and Adam wouldn't be able to tour without them, It is a mutual need and they both fulfill their half. It is, if you will, a symbiotic relationship at this point, which requires all three be involved.
Holly, I also have the DVDs for Live Aid. Wembley, Budapest, Montreal and the Rainbow. Give what up? Why is this a contest? I’ve said my two biggest regrets is not seeing Queen and Elvis live.
I have no regrets being able to see Brian and Roger in 3 QAL shows and will see #4 in August. They are amazing!
If you guys don’t want to hear about or talk about Adam, why do you post in the Queen + Adam Lambert threads? Still a mystery after all of these years!
Nobody has to present their bona fides. You can just start being a fan of The old Queen or QAL or whoever you want, at any time, even if it is last week. You don't have to pass some kind of a lie detector test. This is beyond ridiculous. If you should like QAL (because you just learned of them or saw them) and never have seen Freddie and Queen, then that is fine too. Liking one doesn't mean you have to have always liked the other.
We can go round and round about who needs each other more, but Icy, you are always wanting to put Adam in his place, which in your POV is nowhere near Brian and Roger. That just isn't a realistic scenario anymore as the train has left that station. They all are a band together as band mates and they love to perform together. I still think it is a mutually beneficial arrangement, one that brings all of them a lot of joy. So, at this point any fans of QAL don't think of it as Adam hanging on to their coattails to get where he is. This is a hugely successful collaboration and that point is moot. Adam brings as much as any of them because there would be no QAL without a singer. He works extremely hard to earn validation and do an amazing job and that is what most people focus on.
As I always say, you are no fan of Adam and QAL, since all you are interested in is Freddie and John sometimes. That is in the past. You can stay there and enjoy what you love, but why bring all this stuff up. It serves no point!
snifflese, you are so reasonable and well spoken. Are you a teacher or journalist now or in another life? :-)
You are so right that we can love the original Queen band as well as the current collaboration and everything in beteeen because their music is timeless. My ears even perk up every time I Want It All is played on my TV for the Grub Hub commercial.
Icy, I am not sure if you even like most of his solo stuff. Since we can question fanhood here, I guess I can say that. I get the feeling that just about anything relating to Adam, you don't like. It is the way you say things and when he is mentioned, there is always something wrong with what he did or said or any number of things. I am not sure if it is just Adam or if you feel the way you do because no one could ever do Freddie's part in the band. I guess we would have to see if you had the same reaction to another person fronting the band.
You respond favorably to pretty much any other singer or celebrity that has been mentioned here, but with Adam there is always a negative. That is how I see it and you are more than welcome to you POV, of course, but it bugs me that you pretend to be a fan when to me, you obviously aren't. You can say whatever you feel, but to pretend you like him is what bugs me, because that is not what I see on here. Doesn't make me like you any less, but Adam seems not to be your cup of tea at all and not just with his singing.
I don't know if you even realize that, but that is my perception over the years. Not to trying to be negative, but just trying to explain so that you get what I mean. There are lots of Queen fans that want nothing to do with QAL and I respect that. I don't like everything either!
