brian and roger didn't create queen

I have loads of biography books about Queen or Freddie so dont go saying im one of those people because i already knew that Freddie gave the name "Queen" and all that!
Yes he did make Queen ofcourse without Brian Roger and John he couldnt and most people dont even care what you are saying...whats the point we all no that Freddie made the name "Queen" whats your point?
To the people that didnt no, well now you do.

So, Ray, with all due respect as I think you're an A-1 guy who knows his stuff, if it's Frank Maudsley of Flock of Seagulls on bass, and Lemmy from Motorhead on vocals, is that still Queen because of Brian and Roger's involvement? If John goes on the road with the guys from Morris Minor and the Majors, is he going out as Queen? And if Roger and Brian have a falling out, and Brian goes on tour with Paul Rodgers singing, is that still Queen?

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sharron .G wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]3* taylorgaga (Begg) wrote: [/QUOTENAME]and if Sharron G or Mike Hunt or BPP post anymore carp in this thread or any other thread about Queen RIP 1991 etc etc then they are daft twats who are better off dead![/QUOTE]

Hey load that should have been swallowed... I know you aren't referring to me.[/QUOTE]

Sharron, marry me please, because that was one of the most clever insults I've ever heard. "Load that should've been swallowwed" lol I love that one, you rock

trust me, i'm not putting any of the other three members down, i'm a huge brian may fan, i like roger and also think john contributed great things to queen. that's not my point, i'v read one to many times on this forum that brian and roger created this great band, we must educate these poor queenies. I read a line that said "why can't they go on as queen, they created the dam thing" refering to brian and roger. now let me remind people of a line in the song "only the good die young" where roger sings "you made a sensation, you found a way thru." who were brian and roger singing about? You wanna know why john would never play on this new tour? because he knows if it wasn't for freddie most of his songs wouldn't have been a reality, it's a fact freddie's had a great imput on john and roger's songwriting. it's a fact. while i enjoyed return of the champions for a few good listen's, i'm already finding myself goin back to the real thing. Live at the bowl anyone?

freddie did not create queen neither, he just gave the name....
---> they all did together

yea the name, the logo, the art work, their image, their first top 40 hits, their star power, all their great early songs (along with brian may). besides all those things they were equal, lets not be politically correct people, where aloud to speak the truth. If it wasn't for the mans songwriting ability and live performces they would have broke up after their 2nd or 3rd album. you could have had any joe to play bass. by the time "bites the dust" came out they were already superstars. John and even roger would laugh at you if you said they were equal to freddie, it's simply not true.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]yea the name, the logo, the art work, their image, their first top 40 hits, their star power, all their great early songs (along with brian may). besides all those things they were equal, lets not be politically correct people, where aloud to speak the truth. If it wasn't for the mans songwriting ability and live performces they would have broke up after their 2nd or 3rd album. you could have had any joe to play bass. by the time "bites the dust" came out they were already superstars. John and even roger would laugh at you if you said they were equal to freddie, it's simply not true. [/QUOTE]....hey you said something yourself (along with brian), and I guess the voce in BoRhap doesn't count... (typic Roger voice) and to tell you if any of the those ppl weren't in the band they would have sound way diffrently... everybody had his say into it... Freddie actualy mentioned it himself on one of the documantaries back in time... saw about few weeks ago on German tele...
The Brian Guitar sound is unique and the high backing vocals is typique roger...
He did contribute a big part in Queen, but so did the others. in one of interviews Freddie said to a Brasilian interviewer, that he is not the leader, but the lead singer and tell some more about it group work...

and I think we can go on arguing about that... But would Queen sound the same as if any of Brian, Roger or John wouldn't have been in the band.... This is a fact of life which the answer is NO... Because all ppl are diffrent and all ppl have diffrent way to give what they are... There are no to like Freddie, but neither the others... You could put somebody within them place, but none of the are replaceble, cause it wouldn't be the same.

QUEEN ARE 4 MEMBERS NOT ONE.... BUT THERE ARE ONLY THE 2 OF THEM TO BE AMBASSADOR FOR THEM MUSIC...

i never said john and roger didn't contribute, i think both did greatly, but all four members were not equal. that's not even my original point, the point was brian and roger didn't create queen, freddie, brian and roger did. the obvious order is freddie and brian probably even (maybe fred slightly ahead for star power), roger and then john. remember my reason for bringing this up (besides to cause trouble) is reading things like brian and roger created the whole thing, well, my first thought was to let me give some of these young queen fans a history lesson. i can't argue freddie and brian needed each other, and to be sucessful for 20 years they needed all four members to contribute which they all did, but equal? no way.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]. that's not even my original point, the point was brian and roger didn't create queen, freddie, brian and roger did.
I can't argue freddie and brian needed each other, and to be sucessful for 20 years they needed all four members to contribute which they all did. [/QUOTE]

I don't think I said they were equal either... I just said they all made QUEEN together... nomatter way or how they contributed.... so infact we are arguing for nothing caus I think we do have the same idea in the end. They did all 4...

i agree, arguing around in circles. I also always disagreed with people who say freddie was the whole band,(like sharon), but despite all the arguments, all us queenies must stick together, even the queenzone loser club, Lester, fenderick, sir, and alex. Despite mixed feelings, i like what brian and roger are doing, it's all about getting the queen name back out there, it's pretty dam cool hearing about queen in new york again.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i agree, arguing around in circles. I also always disagreed with people who say freddie was the whole band,(like sharon), but despite all the arguments, all us queenies must stick together, even the queenzone loser club, Lester, fenderick, sir, and alex. Despite mixed feelings, i like what brian and roger are doing, it's all about getting the queen name back out there, it's pretty dam cool hearing about queen in new york again.[/QUOTE]I see it as the ambassadors for the Queen music and aslong they are around, there still be a range of other good artists around like: stones, mccartney.... hope that some youngster will get to them sences and make some good music again.
What has been said earlier on is that there is a lot of crap now.... and I feel a bit ashamed if that's what the future is bringing to my grandchildren (evendough I am only 27 today), hope there will be not much crazy frogs songs anymore...it's trash to me

Flour + sugar + eggs + milk = dough

eggs + milk = slop

Nuff said

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i agree, arguing around in circles. I also always disagreed with people who say freddie was the whole band,(like sharon), but despite all the arguments, all us queenies must stick together, even the queenzone loser club, Lester, fenderick, sir, and alex. Despite mixed feelings, i like what brian and roger are doing, it's all about getting the queen name back out there, it's pretty dam cool hearing about queen in new york again.[/QUOTE]

I'm just back from USA (New York area), I was AMAZED to see so much Queen product in the stores

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kagezan1313 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Flour + sugar + eggs + milk = dough

eggs + milk = slop

Nuff said[/QUOTE]

GOOD POINT BUT SAME GOES FOR
WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH FLOUR ONLY.... NOT MUCH

DON'T FORGET NEITHER THAT FREDDIES SOLO CARREER WASN'T THAT MUCH OF A SUCCES NEITHER!!!!

ok my little beeny you hit a nerve, another thing that kills me is when people mention freddie's solo work. yes i agree mr bad guy was a failure in every way, but barcelona is one of the most original albums i ever heard. simply one of my all time favorite albums in my collection and i have over 200 CDS. The Mercury and cabella story is almost as special to me as the queen story. I know some people don't get what fred was trying to do, but there's alot of us who rank barcelona close in excellence as vintage queen. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. by the way, the great pretender, living on my own, time, and in my defence are also great.