going for another round... well I don't feel like it...
you know what my point is...
of course it's not just a name and it important, but hey, what makes us listen to them is the good music in major parts....
AND I THINK THAT EVERYBODY IS AGREE WHEN I SAY THEY MADE THE BEST OF MUSIC...
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]tiffmoab wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To Mike,
Instead of simply calling you names and insulting you, I really wish that Sir GH and others would learn how to argue in a logical manner.
Tiffany[/QUOTE]
Check Mike's previous posts on this board- the only person who was calling names was actually usually Mike...
Like here...
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=548975
Somehow I still am talking (or trying to) with reasoning and...
Oh, what's the point...
Instead of simply calling you names and insulting you, I really wish that Sir GH and others would learn how to argue in a logical manner.
Tiffany[/QUOTE]
Check Mike's previous posts on this board- the only person who was calling names was actually usually Mike...
Like here...
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=548975
Somehow I still am talking (or trying to) with reasoning and...
Oh, what's the point...
yea but i'm not the one now calling names, i'm simply having a friendly argument. I't seems peole can't counter my points. the only point i'm trying to make is "freddie came up with most of the original ideas" and the first four albums he wrote majority of the material. Am i losing some respect for brian? possibly, i'm now starting to realize this, simply some of the things he say's, since freds death has done nothing creative (including his solo albums) worked with "spears" teeny bopper's ruining the queen name. Putting out sensless albums like greatest hits 3 and queen rocks and not helping put out rarities and interesting albums. Bottom line, If freddie was here it would be alot different. he truly was the main man in queen.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]tiffmoab wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Instead of simply calling you names and insulting you, I really wish that Sir GH and others would learn how to argue in a logical manner.[/QUOTE]
You're kidding me, right? You think Mike Hunt has better tact and respect for opinions of others than myself and others do? Just look at his history of posting here. I may get into disagreements with people, but when it's opinion-based things, never will you catch me saying or implying that my opinion is above all others. That's just plain ignorant. Mike's last post was cool and calm, but when he gets really involved, be has that "bigger than thou" attitude and clearly becomes intolerant of others' opinions.
I know you hate the '05 tour Tiffany, so don't confuse your "Queen beliefs" with your perceptions of other people.
You're kidding me, right? You think Mike Hunt has better tact and respect for opinions of others than myself and others do? Just look at his history of posting here. I may get into disagreements with people, but when it's opinion-based things, never will you catch me saying or implying that my opinion is above all others. That's just plain ignorant. Mike's last post was cool and calm, but when he gets really involved, be has that "bigger than thou" attitude and clearly becomes intolerant of others' opinions.
I know you hate the '05 tour Tiffany, so don't confuse your "Queen beliefs" with your perceptions of other people.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]yea but i'm not the one now calling names, i'm simply having a friendly argument. I't seems peole can't counter my points. the only point i'm trying to make is "freddie came up with most of the original ideas" and the first four albums he wrote majority of the material. Am i losing some respect for brian? possibly, i'm now starting to realize this, simply some of the things he say's, since freds death has done nothing creative (including his solo albums) worked with "spears" teeny bopper's ruining the queen name. Putting out sensless albums like greatest hits 3 and queen rocks and not helping put out rarities and interesting albums. Bottom line, If freddie was here it would be alot different. he truly was the main man in queen.[/QUOTE]well I have to agree with the spears thing.. I am quite not a fan of this lady.... which people would you like to see working with Queen????
oh, i'll say up front to anyone who wants to hear it, that i'm not a saint on queenzone. I'm the one who created the queenzone loser club, lester, fenderick, sir and alex, i'm proud of that. "Tiffany" agree's with me, so get over it. Don't make me out to be a brian may hater or roger, but i admit i'm becoming sick of brian may's attitude and lackluster projects. I'm gonna end this by stating what is obvious, no one in queen since freddie's death has done anything "relevant" that's a fact. It's also funny people bring up freddie's solo album, that's one album, how about the brilliant "barcelona" brian or roger could never even dream of creating anything that original and creative. "back to the light" is not bad, but also is not anything new or original. Bottom line is their washed up has beens since freddie's passing. Why? because freddie was the brilliance in queen, an icon. the other's were great (especially brian) but freddie was and is an icon, ask anyone on the street who queen is, the first thing they say is, oh i love that freddie. no one seems to mention the other's much. this argument isn't going anywhere, no one could counter my points, so i'm ending it. by the way, if freddie's solo stuff was so bad why does he have a 10 CD box of it, DVD's and a great documentry. Lets see the other's get such treatment.
I really don't care about any arguments related to this thread...but here's my take on the 'origin'...
Yes...Brian and Roger did initially get together to form the band Smile...(or more specifically...Brian and Tim Staffell advertised for a drummer, and Roger replied to the advert.)
But in my view there are two distinct periods...and a distinct break between the END of Smile and the BEGINNING of Queen.
Smile did not become Queen...nor did Queen grow from Smile. They are two seperate bands!
It's a case of one band ending, and two of its members deciding to form another group with Freddie Bulsara and eventually teaming up with John Deacon.
One band ENDED one band STARTED.
I think it's important to recognize that Brian and Roger knew each other - from a musical-partnership standpoint the longest - but I don't think this necessarily means they formed Queen themselves and it was Brian and Roger's band, any more than it was Freddie's band. The decision to 'form this new group' was a decision that was done with Freddie...as kind of like a triple-threat decision.
If this makes any sense at all.
A.
Yes...Brian and Roger did initially get together to form the band Smile...(or more specifically...Brian and Tim Staffell advertised for a drummer, and Roger replied to the advert.)
But in my view there are two distinct periods...and a distinct break between the END of Smile and the BEGINNING of Queen.
Smile did not become Queen...nor did Queen grow from Smile. They are two seperate bands!
It's a case of one band ending, and two of its members deciding to form another group with Freddie Bulsara and eventually teaming up with John Deacon.
One band ENDED one band STARTED.
I think it's important to recognize that Brian and Roger knew each other - from a musical-partnership standpoint the longest - but I don't think this necessarily means they formed Queen themselves and it was Brian and Roger's band, any more than it was Freddie's band. The decision to 'form this new group' was a decision that was done with Freddie...as kind of like a triple-threat decision.
If this makes any sense at all.
A.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]smileexpert wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I really don't care about any arguments related to this thread...but here's my take on the 'origin'...
Yes...Brian and Roger did initially get together to form the band Smile...(or more specifically...Brian and Tim Staffell advertised for a drummer, and Roger replied to the advert.)
But in my view there are two distinct periods...and a distinct break between the END of Smile and the BEGINNING of Queen.
Smile did not become Queen...nor did Queen grow from Smile. They are two seperate bands!
It's a case of one band ending, and two of its members deciding to form another group with Freddie Bulsara and eventually teaming up with John Deacon.
One band ENDED one band STARTED.
I think it's important to recognize that Brian and Roger knew each other - from a musical-partnership standpoint the longest - but I don't think this necessarily means they formed Queen themselves and it was Brian and Roger's band, any more than it was Freddie's band. The decision to 'form this new group' was a decision that was done with Freddie...as kind of like a triple-threat decision.
If this makes any sense at all.
A.
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You're wrong, not so much the Smile expert huh? lol, when Freddie first joined up, they were still going under the name Smile. It was made clear that Queen were formerly Smile even in adverts for their earliest gigs if you ever saw them. When I say joined up, I mean when Freddie first convinced them to stay together after Tim left. They weren't immediately looking for a new name, the first instinct were to continue as Smile, over time whether it was a few days, weeks I doubt months but I don't know, they thought it best to come up with a new name. Smile morphed in to Queem, it's not a stretch to se that.
Yes...Brian and Roger did initially get together to form the band Smile...(or more specifically...Brian and Tim Staffell advertised for a drummer, and Roger replied to the advert.)
But in my view there are two distinct periods...and a distinct break between the END of Smile and the BEGINNING of Queen.
Smile did not become Queen...nor did Queen grow from Smile. They are two seperate bands!
It's a case of one band ending, and two of its members deciding to form another group with Freddie Bulsara and eventually teaming up with John Deacon.
One band ENDED one band STARTED.
I think it's important to recognize that Brian and Roger knew each other - from a musical-partnership standpoint the longest - but I don't think this necessarily means they formed Queen themselves and it was Brian and Roger's band, any more than it was Freddie's band. The decision to 'form this new group' was a decision that was done with Freddie...as kind of like a triple-threat decision.
If this makes any sense at all.
A.
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You're wrong, not so much the Smile expert huh? lol, when Freddie first joined up, they were still going under the name Smile. It was made clear that Queen were formerly Smile even in adverts for their earliest gigs if you ever saw them. When I say joined up, I mean when Freddie first convinced them to stay together after Tim left. They weren't immediately looking for a new name, the first instinct were to continue as Smile, over time whether it was a few days, weeks I doubt months but I don't know, they thought it best to come up with a new name. Smile morphed in to Queem, it's not a stretch to se that.
Freddie is Queen RIP 1991
mike hunt and scott mercury are gonna create our own club, the winning club, while people like lester, sir, fenderick and alex will remain as the loser club.
The point is this Brian & Roger worked together before meeting Freddie, so all these people whinging about getting together with Paul Rogers etc... its just another chapter in their lives.
My opinion is Smile did lay the foundations, Doin' Alright already recorded by Smile etc.
Anyone who has the Smile recordings can there is obvious connection.
Its like saying The Quarymen had no connection with The Beatles because it was just John, everything is interlinked.
My opinion is Smile did lay the foundations, Doin' Alright already recorded by Smile etc.
Anyone who has the Smile recordings can there is obvious connection.
Its like saying The Quarymen had no connection with The Beatles because it was just John, everything is interlinked.
Brian & Roger didnt start writing great songs till album 5? Roger was slower in starting off but at least wrote 1 song on every album upto ADATR, too say this about Brian is shit, him & Freddie had the monopoly in those early days
Queen = Keep Yourself Alive (Queen's first if unsucessful single)
Son & Daughter (B-side of said single)
The Night Comes Down (The underated song the on album)
Doin' Alright (part collaborater)
Liar (Freddie actually nicked it cos he wrote the lyrics, Its Brian's riff so should a be a co-write its no fluke the riff spunds exactly Tear It Up)
Queen II
Procession
Father To Son
White Queen (arguably one of Queen's greatest early works.. as we know written before Queen)
Someday One Day (not Bri's best I admit, but neither is Funny How Love Is or Jesus from Freddie)
See What A Fool I've Been (B-side of Seven Seas of Rhye)
Sheer Heart Attack
Brighton Rock
Now I'm Here (One of the greatest rock songs ever)
Dear Friends
Stone Cold Crazy (major influence)
She Makes Me (underated for me)
ANATO
'39
Sweet Lady
The Prophet Song
Goog Company (quirky but original)
Now put songs onto a CD & listen you muppet
Queen = Keep Yourself Alive (Queen's first if unsucessful single)
Son & Daughter (B-side of said single)
The Night Comes Down (The underated song the on album)
Doin' Alright (part collaborater)
Liar (Freddie actually nicked it cos he wrote the lyrics, Its Brian's riff so should a be a co-write its no fluke the riff spunds exactly Tear It Up)
Queen II
Procession
Father To Son
White Queen (arguably one of Queen's greatest early works.. as we know written before Queen)
Someday One Day (not Bri's best I admit, but neither is Funny How Love Is or Jesus from Freddie)
See What A Fool I've Been (B-side of Seven Seas of Rhye)
Sheer Heart Attack
Brighton Rock
Now I'm Here (One of the greatest rock songs ever)
Dear Friends
Stone Cold Crazy (major influence)
She Makes Me (underated for me)
ANATO
'39
Sweet Lady
The Prophet Song
Goog Company (quirky but original)
Now put songs onto a CD & listen you muppet
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]maxpower wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Brian & Roger didnt start writing great songs till album 5? Roger was slower in starting off but at least wrote 1 song on every album upto ADATR, too say this about Brian is shit, him & Freddie had the monopoly in those early days
Queen = Keep Yourself Alive (Queen's first if unsucessful single)
Son & Daughter (B-side of said single)
The Night Comes Down (The underated song the on album)
Doin' Alright (part collaborater)
Liar (Freddie actually nicked it cos he wrote the lyrics, Its Brian's riff so should a be a co-write its no fluke the riff spunds exactly Tear It Up)
Queen II
Procession
Father To Son
White Queen (arguably one of Queen's greatest early works.. as we know written before Queen)
Someday One Day (not Bri's best I admit, but neither is Funny How Love Is or Jesus from Freddie)
See What A Fool I've Been (B-side of Seven Seas of Rhye)
Sheer Heart Attack
Brighton Rock
Now I'm Here (One of the greatest rock songs ever)
Dear Friends
Stone Cold Crazy (major influence)
She Makes Me (underated for me)
ANATO
'39
Sweet Lady
The Prophet Song
Goog Company (quirky but original)
Now put songs onto a CD & listen you muppet[/QUOTE]thks maxwell power darling
Queen = Keep Yourself Alive (Queen's first if unsucessful single)
Son & Daughter (B-side of said single)
The Night Comes Down (The underated song the on album)
Doin' Alright (part collaborater)
Liar (Freddie actually nicked it cos he wrote the lyrics, Its Brian's riff so should a be a co-write its no fluke the riff spunds exactly Tear It Up)
Queen II
Procession
Father To Son
White Queen (arguably one of Queen's greatest early works.. as we know written before Queen)
Someday One Day (not Bri's best I admit, but neither is Funny How Love Is or Jesus from Freddie)
See What A Fool I've Been (B-side of Seven Seas of Rhye)
Sheer Heart Attack
Brighton Rock
Now I'm Here (One of the greatest rock songs ever)
Dear Friends
Stone Cold Crazy (major influence)
She Makes Me (underated for me)
ANATO
'39
Sweet Lady
The Prophet Song
Goog Company (quirky but original)
Now put songs onto a CD & listen you muppet[/QUOTE]thks maxwell power darling
side black queen2. case closed.
Case closed? Okay, yes Mike, you're right. Your opinion is better than everyone else's.
Is that what you want to hear?
Is that what you want to hear?