I've seen to my suprise that brian, roger & JOhn have worked a lot back stage on product of other artists.... and evendough I am not a big musical fan what about WWRY.... according to some biog of ben elton he started writing this together with the Brian & Roger back in 1998... If we would be able to see a list of music that they have done without being the Key (person up front) I think we would be very suprised... also for john who's believed to be retired...
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]History has proven it. think pre 91 and post 91 the difference in creativity in brian and roger. case closed.[/QUOTE]
I recon if Queen existed in 1992 and 1994 WITH Freddie and he sang things like "Foreign Sand", "Driven By You" or "Business"- those would have been hits. I don't think it's about their creativity- they released those songs under their names so you have no idea what would have happened if those songs were sang by Freddie... So mayb ethe prblem is not in writing but in general audience perception? People see Queen as Freddie on vocals- they're not interested in Brian singing on his own solo album... Even if 1998 was the most creative era in Brian' life- those albums wouldn't have sold anyway- and I'm sure it would have been different with freddie on vocals... It's not usually about the music (apart from really CLASSIC stuff), it's about being recognised and familiarised with something... Many people didn't even check B. or R. albums out- because they didn't have QUEEN tag on it... For the evry same reason they decided to use the name on this tour- if they toured as May/Taylor/Rodgers- it'd have been smaller venues and on a smaller scale...
I recon if Queen existed in 1992 and 1994 WITH Freddie and he sang things like "Foreign Sand", "Driven By You" or "Business"- those would have been hits. I don't think it's about their creativity- they released those songs under their names so you have no idea what would have happened if those songs were sang by Freddie... So mayb ethe prblem is not in writing but in general audience perception? People see Queen as Freddie on vocals- they're not interested in Brian singing on his own solo album... Even if 1998 was the most creative era in Brian' life- those albums wouldn't have sold anyway- and I'm sure it would have been different with freddie on vocals... It's not usually about the music (apart from really CLASSIC stuff), it's about being recognised and familiarised with something... Many people didn't even check B. or R. albums out- because they didn't have QUEEN tag on it... For the evry same reason they decided to use the name on this tour- if they toured as May/Taylor/Rodgers- it'd have been smaller venues and on a smaller scale...
no one said they didn't do anything, and your correct they did do a great job with made in heaven, and no freddie wasn't the whole band. yes they all were fantastic muscians, i never said anything differently. The fact remains "innuendo" OR "made in heaven" is the last great work from the surviving members of queen, and yes i'm including their solo albums which were good but very forgettable, also the average (at best) no one but you. since 91, or 95 they act like washed up players who havn't done anything even close to relevant. Of course fans on this site are gonna dispute this and say how amazing "no one but you" is and how electric fire is brillant, but i disagree, their decent solo albums that after a few listens these albums are put on the shelf and collect dust. in turn, after all these years "barcelona" is so brilliant, that's why they have a whole segment on this album for the freddie box set. The bottom line is for the last 10 or so years these guys have looked finished as songwriters, even made in heaven the best songs are freddie's "winter's tale" and "mother love" until brian tried to ruin the end of the song.
the key word is "relevant" when i say they didn't do anything, i meant anything relevant to modern music. even what their doing now isn't relevant, their just playing old songs. actually very very old songs, is that new to you, the man who puts down "the works" and "a kind of magic" all a sudden is saying queen plus paul is new and exciting and "no one but you" is the next comming of "bo rap" or "innuendo" I know the truth hurts, but since freds death they been working with "pink" and robbie williams. Come on folks lets smell the coffee, lets be real. like i said brian and roger are legends but freddie was and always will be an icon, it's obvious their nothing without freddie, again this has been proven. Take off your rose colored glasses and face the truth.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Munchsack wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Brian wanted to call the band "Build Your Own Boat". Strange but true.[/QUOTE]
In an interview Freddie stated that the name quuen was in his mind even before the whole thing happened, that is, smile no longer there, getting cloer to rog and bri and so on...
maybe he did not create queen alone, but most of the original idea was his.
Brian wanted to call the band "Build Your Own Boat". Strange but true.[/QUOTE]
In an interview Freddie stated that the name quuen was in his mind even before the whole thing happened, that is, smile no longer there, getting cloer to rog and bri and so on...
maybe he did not create queen alone, but most of the original idea was his.
boy, i'm not great with words, my man that was right on, just what i was trying to say.
It's just a name...
IT'S NOT JUST A NAME!
beeny, first of all the name is very important for any band. second of all the most important point is "most of the original idea's were freddie's" "not all" he didn't do it alone, but he brought stage presence, their image, the original logo. He knew excactly what he wanted queen to look and sound like. Obviously the other's had something to do with it, but remember the key words since freddie's death, did the surviving members of queen do anything "relevant" that's one key word. Another key word is "most" (not all) the original idea's came from freddie.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]History has proven it. think pre 91 and post 91 the difference in creativity in brian and roger. case closed.[/QUOTE]
I recon if Queen existed in 1992 and 1994 WITH Freddie and he sang things like "Foreign Sand", "Driven By You" or "Business"- those would have been hits. I don't think it's about their creativity- they released those songs under their names so you have no idea what would have happened if those songs were sang by Freddie... So mayb ethe prblem is not in writing but in general audience perception? People see Queen as Freddie on vocals- they're not interested in Brian singing on his own solo album... Even if 1998 was the most creative era in Brian' life- those albums wouldn't have sold anyway- and I'm sure it would have been different with freddie on vocals... It's not usually about the music (apart from really CLASSIC stuff), it's about being recognised and familiarised with something... Many people didn't even check B. or R. albums out- because they didn't have QUEEN tag on it... For the evry same reason they decided to use the name on this tour- if they toured as May/Taylor/Rodgers- it'd have been smaller venues and on a smaller scale... [/QUOTE]
Brian has some great tracks, Roger has some great tracks. I don't know how successful their solo albums were, I assumed they sold decent overseas but you folks are saying they didn't but anyway there's a great post 1991 catalog from both of them. The tour is a nice taster but I want a new album from Queen because it's kinda hard to guage what they're going to bring creatively performing from the back catalog. Then you have to remember that most bands become great from playing live at the beginning. Very rarely would you get a band that gets together and instatntly goes in the studio. I forgot where I was going with this post lol
I recon if Queen existed in 1992 and 1994 WITH Freddie and he sang things like "Foreign Sand", "Driven By You" or "Business"- those would have been hits. I don't think it's about their creativity- they released those songs under their names so you have no idea what would have happened if those songs were sang by Freddie... So mayb ethe prblem is not in writing but in general audience perception? People see Queen as Freddie on vocals- they're not interested in Brian singing on his own solo album... Even if 1998 was the most creative era in Brian' life- those albums wouldn't have sold anyway- and I'm sure it would have been different with freddie on vocals... It's not usually about the music (apart from really CLASSIC stuff), it's about being recognised and familiarised with something... Many people didn't even check B. or R. albums out- because they didn't have QUEEN tag on it... For the evry same reason they decided to use the name on this tour- if they toured as May/Taylor/Rodgers- it'd have been smaller venues and on a smaller scale... [/QUOTE]
Brian has some great tracks, Roger has some great tracks. I don't know how successful their solo albums were, I assumed they sold decent overseas but you folks are saying they didn't but anyway there's a great post 1991 catalog from both of them. The tour is a nice taster but I want a new album from Queen because it's kinda hard to guage what they're going to bring creatively performing from the back catalog. Then you have to remember that most bands become great from playing live at the beginning. Very rarely would you get a band that gets together and instatntly goes in the studio. I forgot where I was going with this post lol
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Take off your rose colored glasses and face the truth. [/QUOTE]
This here is exactly why I and many other people will never take you seriously. You present your opinions as if they are the ultimate opinions over all others. That is conceited, ignorant, and unnecessary. You really need to learn a thing or two about tact and respect for the thoughts of others.
This here is exactly why I and many other people will never take you seriously. You present your opinions as if they are the ultimate opinions over all others. That is conceited, ignorant, and unnecessary. You really need to learn a thing or two about tact and respect for the thoughts of others.
If Brian and Roger worked together using the name Queen....their output would have been even better especially if they released material in the 90s but let's face it, they were grieving...guaranteed it would always be better with Freddie's voice on it - no disputing that....but really I wish they were recording together before now....you can never tell how well they would have done....and you have to admit....Brian and Roger solo is much better than Freddie solo so comparing the solo stuff of Brian and Roger to Queen with Freddie is completely not fair either.......Freddie had some great ideas but without Brian and to a lesser extent Roger and John they wouldn't have happened....just like Brian had some great ideas....Brian is truly a musical genius....just listen to the sounds he created especially on the early stuff....
Brian is a money grabbing looser. He hates the fans not like Freddie who addored the fans.
Brian is stealing the Queen name for money cause he can't sell any CDs on his own.
Paul is a disgrase for replacing Freddie.
Freddie is Queen RIP 1991
Brian is stealing the Queen name for money cause he can't sell any CDs on his own.
Paul is a disgrase for replacing Freddie.
Freddie is Queen RIP 1991
Things I learned from scott_mercury:
1. The term 'money grabbing looser' has replaced the more common 'money grubbing loser.'
2. 'Adored' is now 'Addored' which I should feel 'disgrase' for not knowing.
3. 'Queen RIP 1991' was Freddie's nickname.
Thanks Scott, good post!
1. The term 'money grabbing looser' has replaced the more common 'money grubbing loser.'
2. 'Adored' is now 'Addored' which I should feel 'disgrase' for not knowing.
3. 'Queen RIP 1991' was Freddie's nickname.
Thanks Scott, good post!
To Mike,
Instead of simply calling you names and insulting you, I really wish that Sir GH and others would learn how to argue in a logical manner.
Tiffany
Instead of simply calling you names and insulting you, I really wish that Sir GH and others would learn how to argue in a logical manner.
Tiffany