actually mr. sir as far as this topic goes i know i'm correct. you know how many times i'v talked to music fans about queen and most of their response was "freddie was queen" i'v personally never heard a casual fan say brian was queen. brians a legend, but freddie's an icon, you can't change history my friend. So i don't need to hear i'm right, i know i am.
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to mr sir, i just wanted to add something, watch any documentry about queen and you'll see most of the comments and thoughts are about freddie. I don't wanna hear it's because freddie died, watch magic years (86) for proof my friend. VH1 documentry, anything about queen starts with freddie, that's why i am correct, it's not an opinion, it's a fact. I'm not right about alot of things, but this i'm 100% correct. freddie wasn't the whole band like "gwen stefani" is for her band, brian was brilliant, also roger was great, but freddie is the icon of this group. that's not an opinion it's a fact.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]mike hunt and scott mercury are gonna create our own club, the winning club, while people like lester, sir, fenderick and alex will remain as the loser club.[/QUOTE]
And to think for a moment I thought taht maybe you can really seriously discuss with this guy... Sorry, my bad... Naive me...
And to think for a moment I thought taht maybe you can really seriously discuss with this guy... Sorry, my bad... Naive me...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]actually mr. sir as far as this topic goes i know i'm correct. [/QUOTE]
Even if- by saying this you lose any credibility- it's a matter of opinion my frind. Just because the general auddience thinks Queen is Freddie means shit to me- the same general audience thinks that Robbie Williams can sing and Westlife are one of the best bands of all time. There's no such thing as being...
Oh what's the point...
Even if- by saying this you lose any credibility- it's a matter of opinion my frind. Just because the general auddience thinks Queen is Freddie means shit to me- the same general audience thinks that Robbie Williams can sing and Westlife are one of the best bands of all time. There's no such thing as being...
Oh what's the point...
YAWN, go and listen to a song called April Lady.
The inner workings of a band differs greatly from what the public sees. They perceive of the frontman/singer as being the band. How many people see Mick Jagger as being The Stones when in reality Keith Richards is the engine driving The Stones. Queen may be different but I'd say Queen was really a collaborative effort and Brian and Roger most certainly were co-creators of Queen along with Freddie. Unless you were actually a member of Queen you cannot say, with any certainty, otherwise.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]YAWN, go and listen to a song called April Lady.[/QUOTE]I was about 1 hour ago...
FENDEREK - about westlife! I am happy to see, I am not the only one not agree with best band....
FENDEREK - about westlife! I am happy to see, I am not the only one not agree with best band....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]teleman wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The inner workings of a band differs greatly from what the public sees. They perceive of the frontman/singer as being the band. How many people see Mick Jagger as being The Stones when in reality Keith Richards is the engine driving The Stones. Queen may be different but I'd say Queen was really a collaborative effort and Brian and Roger most certainly were co-creators of Queen along with Freddie. Unless you were actually a member of Queen you cannot say, with any certainty, otherwise.[/QUOTE]Talking about Keith Richards he's in my Guitar magazine... nice stuff about the way he plays and all that...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]watch any documentry about queen and you'll see most of the comments and thoughts are about freddie. I don't wanna hear it's because freddie died, watch magic years (86) for proof my friend. VH1 documentry, anything about queen starts with freddie[/QUOTE]
That's because Freddie was *commercially* the focal point of the group. That doesn't make him the most important member of the band throughout the music creation process, selecting songs for concerts, etc. Teleman made a great point above.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]mike hunt and scott mercury are gonna create our own club, the winning club, while people like lester, sir, fenderick and alex will remain as the loser club.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
With guys like Lester, Fenderek, and Alex, I'm proud to be in such a group. Next group party is Saturday night. Brace yourselves!!
That's because Freddie was *commercially* the focal point of the group. That doesn't make him the most important member of the band throughout the music creation process, selecting songs for concerts, etc. Teleman made a great point above.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]mike hunt and scott mercury are gonna create our own club, the winning club, while people like lester, sir, fenderick and alex will remain as the loser club.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
With guys like Lester, Fenderek, and Alex, I'm proud to be in such a group. Next group party is Saturday night. Brace yourselves!!
actually going by john deacons words freddie was the main voice in queen, he said freddie decided on the game album to have freddie and brian write three apiece and john and roger write two songs. what does that tell you? remember? he said freddie's decision, but to be honest i mainly agree with teleman's comments for the most part. richard was the main force in the stones.
The funny thing is that when rog and brian played as SMILE, mercury went regularly to see them live and to give them some advice. With the tragic end of SMILE Freddie told how it was clear in his mind what he wanted to do and how it wanted to do it with the two memebers left. Everything they have done since then has been under the influence of mercury. Apart from that mercury was the frontman, so, the first to be known, praised, and do not forget it, attacked, especially by the press, and whatever he was accused of, this would also fall on the rest of the band. No wonder that lukewarm queen admirers identify the band with mercury.
When freddie died, most of the original alchemy expired, so that, and I think most people will hang me for this, the smile-atmosphere came back and melted with PR's tastes. It is the same song they sing, but the mood, the atmosphere is not quite the same. it lacks that something that would turn them into that alchemy they had before. that something was mercury.
When freddie died, most of the original alchemy expired, so that, and I think most people will hang me for this, the smile-atmosphere came back and melted with PR's tastes. It is the same song they sing, but the mood, the atmosphere is not quite the same. it lacks that something that would turn them into that alchemy they had before. that something was mercury.
the other ingredient missing is john
thank you spy, i think people are jumping on me because i'v been too harsh on brian, but history has proven us right. I just don't know how anyone can dispute this, it's beyond words. Here i go again, you know what "spy" i'll leave it at that. Mercury was the one with all the brilliant ideas, oh i'm starting agian. you know what, i'll just say read a history book about queen.
I thought that you guys might be interested in what Gary Langhan, a record producer who worked with Queen on "Sheer Heart Attack", "A Night At the Opera", "A Day At the Races" and "News of the World" had to say about the interactions that took place in the studio during the recording of various Queen albums. Keep in mind that this guy was an objective person who actually observed all four of them working together.
"Freddie was always intensely supportive of other people's songwriting in the band and would give as much attention to one of the other's as he would to his own."
"The only point when Freddie was not in control was when Brian was doing his guitar solos"
"................ This sounds as though I'm being hard on the band but I'm sure that if you talked to them they would acknowledge that with Freddie at the helm, they trusted that nothing was going to slip."
"Freddie just got the best out of the rest of the band, he was always pushing them, making them strive for something different."
If you read his contribution to the book "The Real Life", Gary Langan is implying that Freddie was the real creative force behind the band. It is not really all that surprising that Brian and Roger have not done very original work much since 1991. I'm not saying that they are not really talented musicians, only that without Freddie, they are not Queen.
"Freddie was always intensely supportive of other people's songwriting in the band and would give as much attention to one of the other's as he would to his own."
"The only point when Freddie was not in control was when Brian was doing his guitar solos"
"................ This sounds as though I'm being hard on the band but I'm sure that if you talked to them they would acknowledge that with Freddie at the helm, they trusted that nothing was going to slip."
"Freddie just got the best out of the rest of the band, he was always pushing them, making them strive for something different."
If you read his contribution to the book "The Real Life", Gary Langan is implying that Freddie was the real creative force behind the band. It is not really all that surprising that Brian and Roger have not done very original work much since 1991. I'm not saying that they are not really talented musicians, only that without Freddie, they are not Queen.
remember what "Mr. deacon" said for "the game" album. HE said it was freddie's idea to have himself and brian write three songs and roger and john write two. That tells me fred was truly in charge, it was his decision who wrote what and how many songs for a particualar album.