[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tim June wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hamburg is north Germany.
The local TV station there is the NDR (Norddeutscher Rundfunk). I think they have their own archive.
Maybe that helps.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but the recording was made for Rockpalast, which is a WDR programme. Thus, if anyone has the tapes, it's WDR.[/QUOTE]
...and they don't.
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God I wish I had a decent copy of SSOR then I would 'hold it to ransom/Negotiate a deal' for QPL.
Not for any huge amounts of money, all I would ask is that they release all the 'usual concerts' on DVD, that's all. Not asking for much is it?
Not for any huge amounts of money, all I would ask is that they release all the 'usual concerts' on DVD, that's all. Not asking for much is it?
OK, I don't have any decent copy of SSOR but I do have a question:
Queen (Productions) always ask, always get but never give. Fans always offer help but I don't remember anybody getting a single penny or a damn backstage pass.
So what can you offer in exchange for such rare recordings? I'm sure there's some sort of a budget for this sort of things. Money? Recordings?
Queen (Productions) always ask, always get but never give. Fans always offer help but I don't remember anybody getting a single penny or a damn backstage pass.
So what can you offer in exchange for such rare recordings? I'm sure there's some sort of a budget for this sort of things. Money? Recordings?
A fair question deserves a fair answer... (You are really brave, Martin!)
To be fair Martin, I was paid by Queen Productions for the inclusion of 'Ibex' on the FM Box set, but my master tape was not returned (stolen at source was the official response), and I was never compensated in any way for the loss. (Not even with a free CD!).
An apology (or even an acknowledgement from someone higher tha GB) may have helped - but the offer was never made.
I know that quite a large number believe 'Hangman' is bullshit - but it is my 'pension fund', and everyone knows where it is - and that is the real surprise - I flash my wares like a baboon in heat, and not once has anyone other than GB even considered to make the call.
Quite strange indeed.
An apology (or even an acknowledgement from someone higher tha GB) may have helped - but the offer was never made.
I know that quite a large number believe 'Hangman' is bullshit - but it is my 'pension fund', and everyone knows where it is - and that is the real surprise - I flash my wares like a baboon in heat, and not once has anyone other than GB even considered to make the call.
Quite strange indeed.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To be fair Martin, I was paid by Queen Productions for the inclusion of 'Ibex' on the FM Box set, but my master tape was not returned (stolen at source was the official response), and I was never compensated in any way for the loss. (Not even with a free CD!).
An apology (or even an acknowledgement from someone higher tha GB) may have helped - but the offer was never made.
I know that quite a large number believe 'Hangman' is bullshit - but it is my 'pension fund', and everyone knows where it is - and that is the real surprise - I flash my wares like a baboon in heat, and not once has anyone other than GB even considered to make the call.
Quite strange indeed.[/QUOTE]
Thats was a sad move from QP.. if they returned the ibex tape we could had hangman in the queen box set....
An apology (or even an acknowledgement from someone higher tha GB) may have helped - but the offer was never made.
I know that quite a large number believe 'Hangman' is bullshit - but it is my 'pension fund', and everyone knows where it is - and that is the real surprise - I flash my wares like a baboon in heat, and not once has anyone other than GB even considered to make the call.
Quite strange indeed.[/QUOTE]
Thats was a sad move from QP.. if they returned the ibex tape we could had hangman in the queen box set....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I know that quite a large number believe 'Hangman' is bullshit[/QUOTE]
There is a easy solution to make people aware once and for all that it is not bullshit...
Just post a 10 or 20 sec sample in a lossy 128 kbps compressed mp3 file and that's it! I understand that this raritie might have a very personal toutch to it because you probably have gone through a lot to get it but in my opinion it is the most easy and obvious solution to make people aware that it really does exist.
There is a easy solution to make people aware once and for all that it is not bullshit...
Just post a 10 or 20 sec sample in a lossy 128 kbps compressed mp3 file and that's it! I understand that this raritie might have a very personal toutch to it because you probably have gone through a lot to get it but in my opinion it is the most easy and obvious solution to make people aware that it really does exist.
Wow! This behind-the-scenes stuff is neat. I'm curious what do you get "paid" for this kind of stuff. You mentioned a pension-fund. Is it really THAT kind of money?
Not trying to get the actual $$$ amount, John, just curious if you are fairly compensated, or if it's based on sales, etc. Fascinating stuff.
Not trying to get the actual $$$ amount, John, just curious if you are fairly compensated, or if it's based on sales, etc. Fascinating stuff.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Mum Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]...I know that quite a large number believe 'Hangman' is bullshit - but it is my 'pension fund'...[/QUOTE]
Honey... ever heard of those thousands of people who once worked for Enron believing in their "pension"-funds?
Go enjoy your life now... and fuck "Hangman"! ;-)[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha, you changed your name!!!!! LMAO.
Honey... ever heard of those thousands of people who once worked for Enron believing in their "pension"-funds?
Go enjoy your life now... and fuck "Hangman"! ;-)[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha, you changed your name!!!!! LMAO.
God! I get so bored with you, John Stuart, hijacking any and every thread you can with your continual moaning about the same old things. Please shut up. This thread has NOTHING to do with Ibex. Life on QZ does NOT revolve around you, you'll be shocked to hear.
PLEASE stop going on about your bloody Ibex tape. It was 6 entire years ago now. We lost your tape, we apologised, we paid you, you took the cash, you were invited to the Freddie box launch, you came, you bored us senseless, you mingled, you loved it, you told me you loved it. Now... get over it. You are such a moaning old woman John.
You say that no one at Queen, other than me, ever contacted you. Correct. TAKE THE HINT. Ask yourself why that might be. There are good reasons why I was the one who got lumbered having to act as middle man. Work it out, it isn't hard.
I'M NOT RESPONDING ANY MORE TO YOU JOHN, BECAUSE YOU ARE SO VERY TEDIOUS AND REPETITIVE AND STILL BITTER, AND IT IS SO TIRESOME AND EXHAUSTIVE. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN TO STOP GOING ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT HAPPENED 6 YEARS AGO. IT IS UNTRUE TO PRETEND QPL DID NOT APOLOGISE. I CAN PULL OUT THE EMAILS TO PROVE YOU WRONG - AND YOU KNOW IT.
NOW, WOULD YOU KINDLY FOXTROT OFF AND LEAVE THESE THREADS ALONE - YOU SAD BITTER LITTLE INDIVIDUAL.
I'm trying to get on with more constructive and MUCH more interesting things, with people who are neither boring or bitter.
Now then, Mr Scully..... your question is next...
PLEASE stop going on about your bloody Ibex tape. It was 6 entire years ago now. We lost your tape, we apologised, we paid you, you took the cash, you were invited to the Freddie box launch, you came, you bored us senseless, you mingled, you loved it, you told me you loved it. Now... get over it. You are such a moaning old woman John.
You say that no one at Queen, other than me, ever contacted you. Correct. TAKE THE HINT. Ask yourself why that might be. There are good reasons why I was the one who got lumbered having to act as middle man. Work it out, it isn't hard.
I'M NOT RESPONDING ANY MORE TO YOU JOHN, BECAUSE YOU ARE SO VERY TEDIOUS AND REPETITIVE AND STILL BITTER, AND IT IS SO TIRESOME AND EXHAUSTIVE. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN TO STOP GOING ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT HAPPENED 6 YEARS AGO. IT IS UNTRUE TO PRETEND QPL DID NOT APOLOGISE. I CAN PULL OUT THE EMAILS TO PROVE YOU WRONG - AND YOU KNOW IT.
NOW, WOULD YOU KINDLY FOXTROT OFF AND LEAVE THESE THREADS ALONE - YOU SAD BITTER LITTLE INDIVIDUAL.
I'm trying to get on with more constructive and MUCH more interesting things, with people who are neither boring or bitter.
Now then, Mr Scully..... your question is next...
Martin (Scully)...
You make a fair point - that fans who come up with stuff that Queen uses, do not get paid - and don't get any rare recordings either. It is a fair point, but it is totally wrong.
Remember the Magic rehaersal footage on the Wembley DVD? We paid a fan for that.
The Ibex recording on the FM box. We paid a 'fan' for that.
A very nice live recording of Queen, from early 1970s, reel-to-reel. we've just paid a fan for that. It's on my proposal for a Best Of Queen Live DVD (properly done... NOT like Rare Live)
A Queen BBC session, containing a mega rare item no-one knows exists.. including us until 2 years ago. We just paid a fan for that.
The fan who provided the bootlegs for QOL. He was paid.
Footage of Queen live in the 80s, on 8mm film. We paid a U.S. fan for that.
Martin... we DO pay people, but we don't shout from the rooftops about it. Why should we?
I spend my time, with Justin and Kris, etc, gathering material for future product. Some of it might never materialise, who knows? But if it does - like a proper FULL Queen's BBC sessions box for example, which we'd love to do - then such a thing might include some fantastic elements that YOU guys do not even know exist. We spend time finding things, paying for them... just like the Magic rehearsal footage. Fans do get paid.
You would be startled, seriously, to find out what things have come to light in recent years, that QPL has paid fans for, and non-fans (general collectors), for certain audio or footage.
We recently purchased a great interview with Freddie (transcript of which appears in the new book). That came from a Jo-public punter, who was paid.
AND WE CREDIT THESE PEOPLE TOO, MARTIN. CHECK THE SLEEVE NOTES TO WEMBLEY DVD, MK DVD.
You see, you say these things, make these blanket statements, but actually you are wrong. Just because things are not made public, doesn't mean that financial deals don't go on privately - no more than if you do a private deal yourself. What business is a Martin Scully private transaction, of Greg Brooks or anyone else on QZ??? NONE, it would be your business only.
Fair enough you should be "very brave" (as some QZ curiously stated) and make the point, but maybe you might collect some detailed facts before you open yourself to this kind of obvious retort.
I'm not being smart-arse. I simply mean that if you want to go for the preverbial Queen jugular, then be sure of your facts first. That's fair, right?
You make a fair point - that fans who come up with stuff that Queen uses, do not get paid - and don't get any rare recordings either. It is a fair point, but it is totally wrong.
Remember the Magic rehaersal footage on the Wembley DVD? We paid a fan for that.
The Ibex recording on the FM box. We paid a 'fan' for that.
A very nice live recording of Queen, from early 1970s, reel-to-reel. we've just paid a fan for that. It's on my proposal for a Best Of Queen Live DVD (properly done... NOT like Rare Live)
A Queen BBC session, containing a mega rare item no-one knows exists.. including us until 2 years ago. We just paid a fan for that.
The fan who provided the bootlegs for QOL. He was paid.
Footage of Queen live in the 80s, on 8mm film. We paid a U.S. fan for that.
Martin... we DO pay people, but we don't shout from the rooftops about it. Why should we?
I spend my time, with Justin and Kris, etc, gathering material for future product. Some of it might never materialise, who knows? But if it does - like a proper FULL Queen's BBC sessions box for example, which we'd love to do - then such a thing might include some fantastic elements that YOU guys do not even know exist. We spend time finding things, paying for them... just like the Magic rehearsal footage. Fans do get paid.
You would be startled, seriously, to find out what things have come to light in recent years, that QPL has paid fans for, and non-fans (general collectors), for certain audio or footage.
We recently purchased a great interview with Freddie (transcript of which appears in the new book). That came from a Jo-public punter, who was paid.
AND WE CREDIT THESE PEOPLE TOO, MARTIN. CHECK THE SLEEVE NOTES TO WEMBLEY DVD, MK DVD.
You see, you say these things, make these blanket statements, but actually you are wrong. Just because things are not made public, doesn't mean that financial deals don't go on privately - no more than if you do a private deal yourself. What business is a Martin Scully private transaction, of Greg Brooks or anyone else on QZ??? NONE, it would be your business only.
Fair enough you should be "very brave" (as some QZ curiously stated) and make the point, but maybe you might collect some detailed facts before you open yourself to this kind of obvious retort.
I'm not being smart-arse. I simply mean that if you want to go for the preverbial Queen jugular, then be sure of your facts first. That's fair, right?
Scully,
I forgot something. You also say, sarcastically, no one ever got a backstage pass. You are wrong on this as well.
An Australian fan who helped us, called Luke, who some of you know, got a backstage pass to the WWRY Musical Premiere in that country. Great seats, for him and a guest, plus BS passes too.
The same thing happened to UK fans at the London launch.
I forgot something. You also say, sarcastically, no one ever got a backstage pass. You are wrong on this as well.
An Australian fan who helped us, called Luke, who some of you know, got a backstage pass to the WWRY Musical Premiere in that country. Great seats, for him and a guest, plus BS passes too.
The same thing happened to UK fans at the London launch.
Well, I am the one who made the 'curious' statement. Believe me, I was just referring to Martin's question - nothing else.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Martin (Scully)...
You make a fair point - that fans who come up with stuff that Queen uses, do not get paid - and don't get any rare recordings either. It is a fair point, but it is totally wrong.
Remember the Magic rehaersal footage on the Wembley DVD? We paid a fan for that.
The Ibex recording on the FM box. We paid a 'fan' for that.
A very nice live recording of Queen, from early 1970s, reel-to-reel. we've just paid a fan for that. It's on my proposal for a Best Of Queen Live DVD (properly done... NOT like Rare Live)
A Queen BBC session, containing a mega rare item no-one knows exists.. including us until 2 years ago. We just paid a fan for that.
The fan who provided the bootlegs for QOL. He was paid.
Footage of Queen live in the 80s, on 8mm film. We paid a U.S. fan for that.
Martin... we DO pay people, but we don't shout from the rooftops about it. Why should we?
I spend my time, with Justin and Kris, etc, gathering material for future product. Some of it might never materialise, who knows? But if it does - like a proper FULL Queen's BBC sessions box for example, which we'd love to do - then such a thing might include some fantastic elements that YOU guys do not even know exist. We spend time finding things, paying for them... just like the Magic rehearsal footage. Fans do get paid.
You would be startled, seriously, to find out what things have come to light in recent years, that QPL has paid fans for, and non-fans (general collectors), for certain audio or footage.
We recently purchased a great interview with Freddie (transcript of which appears in the new book). That came from a Jo-public punter, who was paid.
AND WE CREDIT THESE PEOPLE TOO, MARTIN. CHECK THE SLEEVE NOTES TO WEMBLEY DVD, MK DVD.
You see, you say these things, make these blanket statements, but actually you are wrong. Just because things are not made public, doesn't mean that financial deals don't go on privately - no more than if you do a private deal yourself. What business is a Martin Scully private transaction, of Greg Brooks or anyone else on QZ??? NONE, it would be your business only.
Fair enough you should be "very brave" (as some QZ curiously stated) and make the point, but maybe you might collect some detailed facts before you open yourself to this kind of obvious retort.
I'm not being smart-arse. I simply mean that if you want to go for the preverbial Queen jugular, then be sure of your facts first. That's fair, right?
[/QUOTE]I'm happy to read that. Collecting all the existing stuff is important and is something which is the job of Queen Productions.I love nothing more than buying a fantastic Queen-product in the best quality possible that I haven't seen or heard before. I hope in the future more such releases will happen because after Queen on fire there hasn't been a really cool release , in my opinion. I would kill for things like Japan'75 on dvd, rare studiorecordings, maybe footage from Queen in america,...
You make a fair point - that fans who come up with stuff that Queen uses, do not get paid - and don't get any rare recordings either. It is a fair point, but it is totally wrong.
Remember the Magic rehaersal footage on the Wembley DVD? We paid a fan for that.
The Ibex recording on the FM box. We paid a 'fan' for that.
A very nice live recording of Queen, from early 1970s, reel-to-reel. we've just paid a fan for that. It's on my proposal for a Best Of Queen Live DVD (properly done... NOT like Rare Live)
A Queen BBC session, containing a mega rare item no-one knows exists.. including us until 2 years ago. We just paid a fan for that.
The fan who provided the bootlegs for QOL. He was paid.
Footage of Queen live in the 80s, on 8mm film. We paid a U.S. fan for that.
Martin... we DO pay people, but we don't shout from the rooftops about it. Why should we?
I spend my time, with Justin and Kris, etc, gathering material for future product. Some of it might never materialise, who knows? But if it does - like a proper FULL Queen's BBC sessions box for example, which we'd love to do - then such a thing might include some fantastic elements that YOU guys do not even know exist. We spend time finding things, paying for them... just like the Magic rehearsal footage. Fans do get paid.
You would be startled, seriously, to find out what things have come to light in recent years, that QPL has paid fans for, and non-fans (general collectors), for certain audio or footage.
We recently purchased a great interview with Freddie (transcript of which appears in the new book). That came from a Jo-public punter, who was paid.
AND WE CREDIT THESE PEOPLE TOO, MARTIN. CHECK THE SLEEVE NOTES TO WEMBLEY DVD, MK DVD.
You see, you say these things, make these blanket statements, but actually you are wrong. Just because things are not made public, doesn't mean that financial deals don't go on privately - no more than if you do a private deal yourself. What business is a Martin Scully private transaction, of Greg Brooks or anyone else on QZ??? NONE, it would be your business only.
Fair enough you should be "very brave" (as some QZ curiously stated) and make the point, but maybe you might collect some detailed facts before you open yourself to this kind of obvious retort.
I'm not being smart-arse. I simply mean that if you want to go for the preverbial Queen jugular, then be sure of your facts first. That's fair, right?
[/QUOTE]I'm happy to read that. Collecting all the existing stuff is important and is something which is the job of Queen Productions.I love nothing more than buying a fantastic Queen-product in the best quality possible that I haven't seen or heard before. I hope in the future more such releases will happen because after Queen on fire there hasn't been a really cool release , in my opinion. I would kill for things like Japan'75 on dvd, rare studiorecordings, maybe footage from Queen in america,...
Well, Greg - somehow I always knew you are a Queenzoner by nature :)
John did not hijack the topic - no need to be so rude. He is not bitter and his contribution to the discussions here are very very valuable. He has given us more information than any other individual here, ever. One doesn't need to be Freud to see that you two don't get along but he is here and I really hope he will be here for a long time. And he is a fan - not a "fan" :)
Martin did not claim anything - he asked. It's cool you answered, that is really very interesting information, thanks for that. Mainly that a fan was paid for publicly available bootlegs was an eye opener. I suppose he was not paid for the bootlegs but the expert advice?
John did not hijack the topic - no need to be so rude. He is not bitter and his contribution to the discussions here are very very valuable. He has given us more information than any other individual here, ever. One doesn't need to be Freud to see that you two don't get along but he is here and I really hope he will be here for a long time. And he is a fan - not a "fan" :)
Martin did not claim anything - he asked. It's cool you answered, that is really very interesting information, thanks for that. Mainly that a fan was paid for publicly available bootlegs was an eye opener. I suppose he was not paid for the bootlegs but the expert advice?