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Greg, I mentioned this matter because I thought the release of the "I Want It All" book was scheduled for November 2006 or so (which would mean that you decided to use nothing from my collection and did not let me know at all). If the situation is different, then I apologize. I will be more patient.
Regarding Marquee 1972 - Richard Thompson doesn't own a copy anymore.
Regarding Marquee 1972 - Richard Thompson doesn't own a copy anymore.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... face the fact that many rare and hidden gems will NEVER see the light of day - not because of unwilling, selfish or even greedy fans - but because as a faceless entity, QPL are the ones who treat that very same fan base no better than sh*t - and unless that bridge is spanned by something a bit more concrete, far more rarities will be driven underground than ever possibly imagined.[/QUOTE]
Greg: (Notice how I can use YOUR name), For years I have written on this board, and for years I have made all sorts of predictions and leaked all sorts of information, therefore regular readers will be able to decide for themselves whether I am a good source of information or whether I fictionalise - and frankly I care not one jot either way.
But you are correct, I would not share with you the steam from my proverbial sh*t, not because it does not exist - but because I can.
And if this makes me a bad person - so be it, and if you wish to deny the existence of this based on you own prejudices, then again, that is not my problem either.
Can you not see the damage you are doing by isolating genuine people? Earlier last year you reported one gentleman "jumped up and down each time he saw you", and while I believe that to be a gross exaggeration - do you REALLY know what stuff that gentleman has? NO: you do not. Do you know what I own: NO you do not. So please do not come on here and try bluff your way with "if you have it show me the money", because that rouse is well past his sell-by date.
Martin: Yes you are correct. As I stated above, Richard Thompson sold his original tape at auction in 1996.
Greg: (Notice how I can use YOUR name), For years I have written on this board, and for years I have made all sorts of predictions and leaked all sorts of information, therefore regular readers will be able to decide for themselves whether I am a good source of information or whether I fictionalise - and frankly I care not one jot either way.
But you are correct, I would not share with you the steam from my proverbial sh*t, not because it does not exist - but because I can.
And if this makes me a bad person - so be it, and if you wish to deny the existence of this based on you own prejudices, then again, that is not my problem either.
Can you not see the damage you are doing by isolating genuine people? Earlier last year you reported one gentleman "jumped up and down each time he saw you", and while I believe that to be a gross exaggeration - do you REALLY know what stuff that gentleman has? NO: you do not. Do you know what I own: NO you do not. So please do not come on here and try bluff your way with "if you have it show me the money", because that rouse is well past his sell-by date.
Martin: Yes you are correct. As I stated above, Richard Thompson sold his original tape at auction in 1996.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]... face the fact that many rare and hidden gems will NEVER see the light of day - not because of unwilling, selfish or even greedy fans - but because as a faceless entity, QPL are the ones who treat that very same fan base no better than sh*t - and unless that bridge is spanned by something a bit more concrete, far more rarities will be driven underground than ever possibly imagined.[/QUOTE]
Greg: (Notice how I can use YOUR name), For years I have written on this board, and for years I have made all sorts of predictions and leaked all sorts of information, therefore regular readers will be able to decide for themselves whether I am a good source of information or whether I fictionalise - and frankly I care not one jot either way.
But you are correct, I would not share with you the steam from my proverbial sh*t, not because it does not exist - but because I can.
And if this makes me a bad person - so be it, and if you wish to deny the existence of this based on you own prejudices, then again, that is not my problem either.
Can you not see the damage you are doing by isolating genuine people? Earlier last year you reported one gentleman "jumped up and down each time I he saw you", and while I believe that to be a gross exageration - do you REALLY know what stuff that gentleman has? NO: you do not. Do you know what I own: NO you do not. So please do not come on here and try bluff your way into "if I have it show me the money", because that rouse is well past his sell-by date.
Martin: Yes you are correct. As I stated above, Richard Thompson sold his original tape at auction in 1996.
[/QUOTE]I don't understand why Greg does so difficult. That isn't very intelligent from a commercial point of view. It is the task from Queen Productions to gather as much material as possible. Well, then you don't tell possible sellers AND buyers to fuck off.That is what greg sometimes does. Brian May or Roger Taylor won't be happy with this situation. The archivist shouldn't give the die-hard fans which we(and john above all!)I always read with great pleasure the posts on here(also on queenonline)and sometimes people make trouble for nothing. We are here for the same reasons. We just want as much material released for the fanzs and the better that material , the happier the fans. Greg should contribute to that and help the fans. Not call them names. Like it or not ,greg, you represent Queen!
Greg: (Notice how I can use YOUR name), For years I have written on this board, and for years I have made all sorts of predictions and leaked all sorts of information, therefore regular readers will be able to decide for themselves whether I am a good source of information or whether I fictionalise - and frankly I care not one jot either way.
But you are correct, I would not share with you the steam from my proverbial sh*t, not because it does not exist - but because I can.
And if this makes me a bad person - so be it, and if you wish to deny the existence of this based on you own prejudices, then again, that is not my problem either.
Can you not see the damage you are doing by isolating genuine people? Earlier last year you reported one gentleman "jumped up and down each time I he saw you", and while I believe that to be a gross exageration - do you REALLY know what stuff that gentleman has? NO: you do not. Do you know what I own: NO you do not. So please do not come on here and try bluff your way into "if I have it show me the money", because that rouse is well past his sell-by date.
Martin: Yes you are correct. As I stated above, Richard Thompson sold his original tape at auction in 1996.
[/QUOTE]I don't understand why Greg does so difficult. That isn't very intelligent from a commercial point of view. It is the task from Queen Productions to gather as much material as possible. Well, then you don't tell possible sellers AND buyers to fuck off.That is what greg sometimes does. Brian May or Roger Taylor won't be happy with this situation. The archivist shouldn't give the die-hard fans which we(and john above all!)I always read with great pleasure the posts on here(also on queenonline)and sometimes people make trouble for nothing. We are here for the same reasons. We just want as much material released for the fanzs and the better that material , the happier the fans. Greg should contribute to that and help the fans. Not call them names. Like it or not ,greg, you represent Queen!
Here we go again....
As a collector (at a medium level - neither the bottom of the chain nor the top), I have very little chance of helping with finding material (although I did send some pics for the IWIA book, confident that they would be duplicates but wanting to make sure nothing got missed out), so can only watch and wonder.
What I would say is that I know which people claiming to have things I trust, and which I do not. So, for example, I believe that a Hangman studio acetate does exist, and video footage of Queen at Sunbury does not.
However, I must acknowledge that I didn't believe the first reports of PR joining Q, and believed that the Top 100 bootlegs would be lossless recordings from Queen's own archives, so judge me on my judgements....
As a collector (at a medium level - neither the bottom of the chain nor the top), I have very little chance of helping with finding material (although I did send some pics for the IWIA book, confident that they would be duplicates but wanting to make sure nothing got missed out), so can only watch and wonder.
What I would say is that I know which people claiming to have things I trust, and which I do not. So, for example, I believe that a Hangman studio acetate does exist, and video footage of Queen at Sunbury does not.
However, I must acknowledge that I didn't believe the first reports of PR joining Q, and believed that the Top 100 bootlegs would be lossless recordings from Queen's own archives, so judge me on my judgements....
What I don't understand is why every interesting thread turns into a huge discussion or even a fight when it reaches two pages or more. Seriously what is up with that? We should be working together and share information. Not endlessly argue with each other. Call me naive if you must but this place would be a lot more fun if everybody would accept and respect each other for who they are and left their personal issues behind them.
John S Stuart - have you ever thought of asking QP for a digital clone for the digital master they have of your tape? It would obviously be of much higher quality than your MD dub.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
IT'S JUST ANOTHER STRATMAN TYPE OF SUNBURY CONCERT 1974 FILM INVENTION. THEY DON'T EXIST.
It exist's more than your decorum and your intelligent posts Greg. Sorry but YOU WERE NOT AT SUNBURY FESTIVAL, so how in the hell can you say it does NOT exist?? Just because QPL doesn't own a copy? You need to remember 60% of The Beatles rarities (whom 'Archivists') claimed did not exist, well damn it seems that there is alot more footage and recorded audio that NONE of us will EVER see in this lifetime! This is NOT your decision to exclude recordings, you weren't at every gig, nor was anyone else except Queen, and they obviously DO NOT know what is out there either! Brian supposedly emailed someone here (don't remember the name) saying that they were NOT booed at Sunbury! What a crock of shit, there are way too many people whom i have had contact with and others here whom were there or know what happened because they lived in the area, plus Brian left out the fact that their lighting rig was crapped out that gig also. Honestly Greg, i do not know you personally, this isn't personal, but you just do NOT know everything that exists just because it is NOT available to you or your Affiliates.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER STRATMAN TYPE OF SUNBURY CONCERT 1974 FILM INVENTION. THEY DON'T EXIST.
It exist's more than your decorum and your intelligent posts Greg. Sorry but YOU WERE NOT AT SUNBURY FESTIVAL, so how in the hell can you say it does NOT exist?? Just because QPL doesn't own a copy? You need to remember 60% of The Beatles rarities (whom 'Archivists') claimed did not exist, well damn it seems that there is alot more footage and recorded audio that NONE of us will EVER see in this lifetime! This is NOT your decision to exclude recordings, you weren't at every gig, nor was anyone else except Queen, and they obviously DO NOT know what is out there either! Brian supposedly emailed someone here (don't remember the name) saying that they were NOT booed at Sunbury! What a crock of shit, there are way too many people whom i have had contact with and others here whom were there or know what happened because they lived in the area, plus Brian left out the fact that their lighting rig was crapped out that gig also. Honestly Greg, i do not know you personally, this isn't personal, but you just do NOT know everything that exists just because it is NOT available to you or your Affiliates.
John - yes but Richard kept a copy. But then lost it...
Jay - the problem is that we feel Queen Productions ask for more than they give. And that's valid not only about recordings but also about info. We do provide info that Hangman acetate exists or there's no Sunbury video. But I don't remember getting this sort of info from the other side, from Queen. And I don't blame Greg this time, he probably has his orders.
Jay - the problem is that we feel Queen Productions ask for more than they give. And that's valid not only about recordings but also about info. We do provide info that Hangman acetate exists or there's no Sunbury video. But I don't remember getting this sort of info from the other side, from Queen. And I don't blame Greg this time, he probably has his orders.
Sorry there Mr. Skully, but Sunbury '74, & Hamburg (WDR) '74 exist! I have seen WDR on a few collectors lists a few years back, and i have seen about 2mins of Sunbury, from a guy in Australia named Nygel.
Collectors' lists are very dangerous items, to be honest...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry there Mr. Skully, but Sunbury '74, & Hamburg (WDR) '74 exist! I have seen WDR on a few collectors lists a few years back, and i have seen about 2mins of Sunbury, from a guy in Australia named Nygel.[/QUOTE]
Sorry there, Hamburg (WDR) is a totally new information, nobody noticed this LS footage before with the Queen crest... No collector had it on their list. Why start another false rumour?
Sorry there, Hamburg (WDR) is a totally new information, nobody noticed this LS footage before with the Queen crest... No collector had it on their list. Why start another false rumour?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr. Scully wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Jay - the problem is that we feel Queen Productions ask for more than they give. And that's valid not only about recordings but also about info. We do provide info that Hangman acetate exists or there's no Sunbury video. But I don't remember getting this sort of info from the other side, from Queen. And I don't blame Greg this time, he probably has his orders. [/QUOTE]
I understand that dude. I just think we should try to avoid turning every thread into yet another discussion whitch is pretty much spread through out the whole board. That's all.
Alright back to the topic:
Greg have you ever heard about the private recording that exist of the Fort Worth show on the 10th of December, 1977? I think someone recently claimed that a family member of his or her has recorded a large part of this show on Super 8. This would certainly be interesting seeing as how there's not much video material availible from this era. I definitely think this is worthy of tracing seeing as it's more then just a speculation.
Also,
(although I must admit this is still a rumour but since a lot of people seem to know who owns this recording, I'll just include it). The first show Queen performed in Holland on the 8th of December at The Hague in 1974 was apparantly recorded on video. Many claim that at least one person has a possible full recording of that show (seeing as the show wasn't that long). Best of all, the hall that Queen used at the Congres Gebouw was known to capture most of their shows on tape with a large camera that was set up at the back of the hall. They did this with bands like the Rolling Stones as well. (material from that show exist!)
This might be something to trace.
Jay - the problem is that we feel Queen Productions ask for more than they give. And that's valid not only about recordings but also about info. We do provide info that Hangman acetate exists or there's no Sunbury video. But I don't remember getting this sort of info from the other side, from Queen. And I don't blame Greg this time, he probably has his orders. [/QUOTE]
I understand that dude. I just think we should try to avoid turning every thread into yet another discussion whitch is pretty much spread through out the whole board. That's all.
Alright back to the topic:
Greg have you ever heard about the private recording that exist of the Fort Worth show on the 10th of December, 1977? I think someone recently claimed that a family member of his or her has recorded a large part of this show on Super 8. This would certainly be interesting seeing as how there's not much video material availible from this era. I definitely think this is worthy of tracing seeing as it's more then just a speculation.
Also,
(although I must admit this is still a rumour but since a lot of people seem to know who owns this recording, I'll just include it). The first show Queen performed in Holland on the 8th of December at The Hague in 1974 was apparantly recorded on video. Many claim that at least one person has a possible full recording of that show (seeing as the show wasn't that long). Best of all, the hall that Queen used at the Congres Gebouw was known to capture most of their shows on tape with a large camera that was set up at the back of the hall. They did this with bands like the Rolling Stones as well. (material from that show exist!)
This might be something to trace.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Miklos wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sorry there Mr. Skully, but Sunbury '74, & Hamburg (WDR) '74 exist! I have seen WDR on a few collectors lists a few years back, and i have seen about 2mins of Sunbury, from a guy in Australia named Nygel.[/QUOTE]
Sorry there, Hamburg (WDR) is a totally new information, nobody noticed this LS footage before with the Queen crest... No collector had it on their list. Why start another false rumour? [/QUOTE]
A concert that was performed in 1974, new info? lol right. This was known that Queen played there. You said, "No collector had it on their list. Why start another false rumour?" First off, you DO NOT know every Queen collector in the whole world, secondly, i don't EVER remember starting ANY rumours! The collectors lists i saw the Hamburg concert on were of a couple of Lynyrd Skynyrd collectors, and 1 Queen collector, of whom lives in Jacksonville, Fla. and has been a huge collector of both LS and Queen for many of years, and i know this person well. Her and her husband have been to many, and i mean many of the Queen conventions over the years, and she has some awesome rarities. So before you start making statements about me, get your facts straight, i am not here to start fights or rumours, i only speak of REAL life Queen experiences, i am not like some of the other people here who CLAIM they have everything, and then don't share a damn thing. All i said was i have seen some of Sunbury, and i have seen Hamburg on collectors lists in previous years. In closing, do you actually think that even 10% of serious Queen collectors are here at QZ? I think not. I will tell you the same thing i told Greg Brooks, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS ALL OUT THERE, AND NEVER WILL! Now with that said, let's all get along here. :)
Sorry there, Hamburg (WDR) is a totally new information, nobody noticed this LS footage before with the Queen crest... No collector had it on their list. Why start another false rumour? [/QUOTE]
A concert that was performed in 1974, new info? lol right. This was known that Queen played there. You said, "No collector had it on their list. Why start another false rumour?" First off, you DO NOT know every Queen collector in the whole world, secondly, i don't EVER remember starting ANY rumours! The collectors lists i saw the Hamburg concert on were of a couple of Lynyrd Skynyrd collectors, and 1 Queen collector, of whom lives in Jacksonville, Fla. and has been a huge collector of both LS and Queen for many of years, and i know this person well. Her and her husband have been to many, and i mean many of the Queen conventions over the years, and she has some awesome rarities. So before you start making statements about me, get your facts straight, i am not here to start fights or rumours, i only speak of REAL life Queen experiences, i am not like some of the other people here who CLAIM they have everything, and then don't share a damn thing. All i said was i have seen some of Sunbury, and i have seen Hamburg on collectors lists in previous years. In closing, do you actually think that even 10% of serious Queen collectors are here at QZ? I think not. I will tell you the same thing i told Greg Brooks, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS ALL OUT THERE, AND NEVER WILL! Now with that said, let's all get along here. :)
Welcome back Stratman.
"A concert that was performed in 1974, new info"
OK you are still uncapable of reading and interpreting. The new info is the WDR LS footage, with the Queen crest.
"A concert that was performed in 1974, new info"
OK you are still uncapable of reading and interpreting. The new info is the WDR LS footage, with the Queen crest.