[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Miklos wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Welcome back Stratman.
"A concert that was performed in 1974, new info"
OK you are still uncapable of reading and interpreting. The new info is the WDR LS footage, with the Queen crest. [/QUOTE]
Welcome back Stratman? OMG, to be honest, i have better things to do than be insulted! I am NOT stratman or anyone else, i have really only been here very shortly! I never even heard of this site until about 3 months ago. So dude, why don't you chill out and quit trying to avoid the facts? And BTW, YOU are the one that is starting false rumours, you are saying that i am this dude that i don't even know, nor do i even care about, i am NOT stratman, or whoever the hell you are talking about, and nor am i a liar like the person/troll that you mention!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Miklos wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Welcome back Stratman.
"A concert that was performed in 1974, new info"
OK you are still uncapable of reading and interpreting. The new info is the WDR LS footage, with the Queen crest. [/QUOTE]
Welcome back Stratman? OMG, to be honest, i have better things to do than be insulted! I am NOT stratman or anyone else, i have really only been here very shortly! I never even heard of this site until about 3 months ago. So dude, why don't you chill out and quit trying to avoid the facts? And BTW, YOU are the one that is starting false rumours, you are saying that i am this dude that i don't even know, nor do i even care about, i am NOT stratman, or whoever the hell you are talking about, and nor am i a liar like the person/troll that you mention! [/QUOTE]
ehehe.... found and hit?
"A concert that was performed in 1974, new info"
OK you are still uncapable of reading and interpreting. The new info is the WDR LS footage, with the Queen crest. [/QUOTE]
Welcome back Stratman? OMG, to be honest, i have better things to do than be insulted! I am NOT stratman or anyone else, i have really only been here very shortly! I never even heard of this site until about 3 months ago. So dude, why don't you chill out and quit trying to avoid the facts? And BTW, YOU are the one that is starting false rumours, you are saying that i am this dude that i don't even know, nor do i even care about, i am NOT stratman, or whoever the hell you are talking about, and nor am i a liar like the person/troll that you mention! [/QUOTE]
ehehe.... found and hit?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Miklos wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Miklos wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Welcome back Stratman.
"A concert that was performed in 1974, new info"
OK you are still uncapable of reading and interpreting. The new info is the WDR LS footage, with the Queen crest. [/QUOTE]
Welcome back Stratman? OMG, to be honest, i have better things to do than be insulted! I am NOT stratman or anyone else, i have really only been here very shortly! I never even heard of this site until about 3 months ago. So dude, why don't you chill out and quit trying to avoid the facts? And BTW, YOU are the one that is starting false rumours, you are saying that i am this dude that i don't even know, nor do i even care about, i am NOT stratman, or whoever the hell you are talking about, and nor am i a liar like the person/troll that you mention! [/QUOTE]
ehehe.... found and hit? [/QUOTE]
Sorry i don't follow???
"A concert that was performed in 1974, new info"
OK you are still uncapable of reading and interpreting. The new info is the WDR LS footage, with the Queen crest. [/QUOTE]
Welcome back Stratman? OMG, to be honest, i have better things to do than be insulted! I am NOT stratman or anyone else, i have really only been here very shortly! I never even heard of this site until about 3 months ago. So dude, why don't you chill out and quit trying to avoid the facts? And BTW, YOU are the one that is starting false rumours, you are saying that i am this dude that i don't even know, nor do i even care about, i am NOT stratman, or whoever the hell you are talking about, and nor am i a liar like the person/troll that you mention! [/QUOTE]
ehehe.... found and hit? [/QUOTE]
Sorry i don't follow???
Here we go again...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]« Jay » wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr. Scully wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Jay - the problem is that we feel Queen Productions ask for more than they give. And that's valid not only about recordings but also about info. We do provide info that Hangman acetate exists or there's no Sunbury video. But I don't remember getting this sort of info from the other side, from Queen. And I don't blame Greg this time, he probably has his orders. [/QUOTE]
I understand that dude. I just think we should try to avoid turning every thread into yet another discussion whitch is pretty much spread through out the whole board. That's all.
Alright back to the topic:
Greg have you ever heard about the private recording that exist of the Fort Worth show on the 10th of December, 1977? I think someone recently claimed that a family member of his or her has recorded a large part of this show on Super 8. This would certainly be interesting seeing as how there's not much video material availible from this era. I definitely think this is worthy of tracing seeing as it's more then just a speculation.
This might be something to trace.[/QUOTE]
Fort Worth.
"Atlanta 8th December. Bob Harris, the compere of Englands major rock TV programme, arrived with the film crew to do some filming for the forthcoming documentary about the band. They began filming at Fort Worth and Houston, after which the film crew returned home and Bob Harris stayed with the band and flew them to Las Vegas."
OIQFC Spring 78 issue. Unfortunately in the lack of official confirmation, we dont know how much of the concert was recorded, or whether it survived. If somebody has the book "Quen - The early years", there is a chapter where Bob Harris tells the story of a day in 1978, when some people from QP arrived at their studios, and took all US footage reels with them . I am not saying it is a genuine story, but that is written in that book.
The Fan Club mag continues... > "during the stop in Long Beach, the band did a 15 minute slot for the NBC six o clock news. This included interviews with the band and film of the setting up of the equipoment and the stage"...
http://www.nbcnewsarchives.com/ .. any production company is able to ask a research for the above news footage...
Jay - the problem is that we feel Queen Productions ask for more than they give. And that's valid not only about recordings but also about info. We do provide info that Hangman acetate exists or there's no Sunbury video. But I don't remember getting this sort of info from the other side, from Queen. And I don't blame Greg this time, he probably has his orders. [/QUOTE]
I understand that dude. I just think we should try to avoid turning every thread into yet another discussion whitch is pretty much spread through out the whole board. That's all.
Alright back to the topic:
Greg have you ever heard about the private recording that exist of the Fort Worth show on the 10th of December, 1977? I think someone recently claimed that a family member of his or her has recorded a large part of this show on Super 8. This would certainly be interesting seeing as how there's not much video material availible from this era. I definitely think this is worthy of tracing seeing as it's more then just a speculation.
This might be something to trace.[/QUOTE]
Fort Worth.
"Atlanta 8th December. Bob Harris, the compere of Englands major rock TV programme, arrived with the film crew to do some filming for the forthcoming documentary about the band. They began filming at Fort Worth and Houston, after which the film crew returned home and Bob Harris stayed with the band and flew them to Las Vegas."
OIQFC Spring 78 issue. Unfortunately in the lack of official confirmation, we dont know how much of the concert was recorded, or whether it survived. If somebody has the book "Quen - The early years", there is a chapter where Bob Harris tells the story of a day in 1978, when some people from QP arrived at their studios, and took all US footage reels with them . I am not saying it is a genuine story, but that is written in that book.
The Fan Club mag continues... > "during the stop in Long Beach, the band did a 15 minute slot for the NBC six o clock news. This included interviews with the band and film of the setting up of the equipoment and the stage"...
http://www.nbcnewsarchives.com/ .. any production company is able to ask a research for the above news footage...
Well there you have it, it at least proves that a film crew have attempted to shoot the concert. If the tapes are still locked away is another thing of course but he it's a start! :-)
To Crezchi.
YOU DID NOT FOLLOW THE THREAD CAREFULLY ENOUGH. So, gather your facts properly and then what you say might be accurate, instead of in error.
I did NOT say that Sunbury doesn't exist, silly boy, I said that YoungStratMan having the Sunbury footage was an invention, which it was. This has now been proven on this site - if you bothered to read it carefully before shouting your mouth off in error at me, you'd see and read that.
We know the footage exists somewhere, but NOT with StratMan.
My point was that LIKE Stratman owning the footage, the Bo Rhap out-takes DO NOT EXIST.
Please get your facts straight before spouting off.
YOU DID NOT FOLLOW THE THREAD CAREFULLY ENOUGH. So, gather your facts properly and then what you say might be accurate, instead of in error.
I did NOT say that Sunbury doesn't exist, silly boy, I said that YoungStratMan having the Sunbury footage was an invention, which it was. This has now been proven on this site - if you bothered to read it carefully before shouting your mouth off in error at me, you'd see and read that.
We know the footage exists somewhere, but NOT with StratMan.
My point was that LIKE Stratman owning the footage, the Bo Rhap out-takes DO NOT EXIST.
Please get your facts straight before spouting off.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To Crezchi.
YOU DID NOT FOLLOW THE THREAD CAREFULLY ENOUGH. So, gather your facts properly and then what you say might be accurate, instead of in error.
I did NOT say that Sunbury doesn't exist, silly boy, I said that YoungStratMan having the Sunbury footage was an invention, which it was. This has now been proven on this site - if you bothered to read it carefully before shouting your mouth off in error at me, you'd see and read that.
We know the footage exists somewhere, but NOT with StratMan.
My point was that LIKE Stratman owning the footage, the Bo Rhap out-takes DO NOT EXIST.
Please get your facts straight before spouting off.[/QUOTE]
Sorry maybe i did misunderstand, but you don't have to be so rude about it. Honestly i still don't think you were specific about your statement. I don't know the whole story about stratman, so i can't be expected to know every detail of what is said. Sorry. For future encounters, why not be a little less rude?
YOU DID NOT FOLLOW THE THREAD CAREFULLY ENOUGH. So, gather your facts properly and then what you say might be accurate, instead of in error.
I did NOT say that Sunbury doesn't exist, silly boy, I said that YoungStratMan having the Sunbury footage was an invention, which it was. This has now been proven on this site - if you bothered to read it carefully before shouting your mouth off in error at me, you'd see and read that.
We know the footage exists somewhere, but NOT with StratMan.
My point was that LIKE Stratman owning the footage, the Bo Rhap out-takes DO NOT EXIST.
Please get your facts straight before spouting off.[/QUOTE]
Sorry maybe i did misunderstand, but you don't have to be so rude about it. Honestly i still don't think you were specific about your statement. I don't know the whole story about stratman, so i can't be expected to know every detail of what is said. Sorry. For future encounters, why not be a little less rude?
Ok Crezchi,
But it was rather rude of you to attack me as you did without first reading the threads and doing just a tiny bit of homework before having a go at me in error. That's rude too.
I'll be less rude next time, if you are not so eager to find fault in me for no reason. That seems fair.
But it was rather rude of you to attack me as you did without first reading the threads and doing just a tiny bit of homework before having a go at me in error. That's rude too.
I'll be less rude next time, if you are not so eager to find fault in me for no reason. That seems fair.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Ok Crezchi,
But it was rather rude of you to attack me as you did without first reading the threads and doing just a tiny bit of homework before having a go at me in error. That's rude too.
I'll be less rude next time, if you are not so eager to find fault in me for no reason. That seems fair.[/QUOTE]
I did say "Sorry" to you, and that i may have "misunderstood" what you meant. I don't go looking for faults in anyone Greg, i really respect you just like i respect everyone else here, but i can only give the respect that i am given also.
But it was rather rude of you to attack me as you did without first reading the threads and doing just a tiny bit of homework before having a go at me in error. That's rude too.
I'll be less rude next time, if you are not so eager to find fault in me for no reason. That seems fair.[/QUOTE]
I did say "Sorry" to you, and that i may have "misunderstood" what you meant. I don't go looking for faults in anyone Greg, i really respect you just like i respect everyone else here, but i can only give the respect that i am given also.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]« Jay » wrote: [/QUOTENAME]What I don't understand is why every interesting thread turns into a huge discussion or even a fight when it reaches two pages or more. Seriously what is up with that? We should be working together and share information. Not endlessly argue with each other. Call me naive if you must but this place would be a lot more fun if everybody would accept and respect each other for who they are and left their personal issues behind them.[/QUOTE]
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Jay... there are MANY people here on MoanZone, and FEW and an ever dwindling number of genuine people, who really care about getting at serious Queen and related issues.
Sadly, you will always find that decent honest and reasonable questions and threads get sabotaged or hijacked by a series of morons intent upon spoiling it for everyone. That is the nature of these kinds of forum sites. It cannot be avoided. You have young idiots, utter morons and spanners (as we call them here) that have nothing constructive to contribute, no knowledge or experience, and can only offer something stupid, untrelated, insulting, banaal, predictable. There are MANY of them, and they even piss off other QZ-ers. But STILL they are here!!!!!
STILL THEY ARE TOLERATED. GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY.
You will soon see comments added to this point of mine, now, that will endorse the point. Some of them seem to be 9 or 10 years old. Is that feasible? I guess it must be. And even those in their late teens and 20s seem as mad as march hares. Some are the kind of people you would serious avoid if you saw them on the street. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about on this issue. Some are genuinely 'dangerous' individuals with what's going on inside their heads. You can determine this easily enough by some threads on this site, as you know.
This is the nature of these sites. I'm aware of that. That's why most people who want serious debate and whom want to get at the real essence of interesting Queen issues, do so in private email without the risk of dickheads interrupting and getting in the way just because they can. Sad, isn't it.
There is some great stuff here on QZ, which I read, and sometimes follow up on, or which I direct certain people within the Queen circle towards. BUT it is littered with so much pollution and unrelated trash and stupidity from people who know nothing, that most of the main people I direct to things, get bored very quickly and leave. Is this what you want?
I think it would be great if there was some efficient and ruthless way of filtering away those who seek only to sabotage, hijact, corrupt and generally fuck up what could otherwise be a forum/site with an unusual and enviable reputation. This is, as far as I can see, the main reason that a lot of key people avoid this site.
It COULD be very different. At the moment QZ's reputation is far from enviable. Of course there will be those to disagree with this, but those people would argue with ANYTHING at all, just for the sake of it. But you know what I mean.
If QueenZone were a high street shop, many of the people who come in and abuse it, who try to pollute and break it, would surely be thrown out - some with a good and well-earned smack round the ear as they were ejected. But here on QZ, ANY nasty sod can say what he/she likes - to disrupt good conversation and block proper progress, to the huge detriment of it all. It's so tedious and, I think, unnecessary.
There seems to be NO policing, no care, no monitoring of this sight. Imagine if you tried to run a shop or office company that way!
Why can't there be some sensible filtering of those who use and abuse this site? Ok, I might get thrown off too, as too might the mean and moody Poppy (who said she made a 13-years old QZ-er cry and bugger off), but that might not be a bad thing.
I for one would certainly sacrifice myself and my extremely amusing and entertaining presence, and my genius comments and huge
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Jay... there are MANY people here on MoanZone, and FEW and an ever dwindling number of genuine people, who really care about getting at serious Queen and related issues.
Sadly, you will always find that decent honest and reasonable questions and threads get sabotaged or hijacked by a series of morons intent upon spoiling it for everyone. That is the nature of these kinds of forum sites. It cannot be avoided. You have young idiots, utter morons and spanners (as we call them here) that have nothing constructive to contribute, no knowledge or experience, and can only offer something stupid, untrelated, insulting, banaal, predictable. There are MANY of them, and they even piss off other QZ-ers. But STILL they are here!!!!!
STILL THEY ARE TOLERATED. GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY.
You will soon see comments added to this point of mine, now, that will endorse the point. Some of them seem to be 9 or 10 years old. Is that feasible? I guess it must be. And even those in their late teens and 20s seem as mad as march hares. Some are the kind of people you would serious avoid if you saw them on the street. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about on this issue. Some are genuinely 'dangerous' individuals with what's going on inside their heads. You can determine this easily enough by some threads on this site, as you know.
This is the nature of these sites. I'm aware of that. That's why most people who want serious debate and whom want to get at the real essence of interesting Queen issues, do so in private email without the risk of dickheads interrupting and getting in the way just because they can. Sad, isn't it.
There is some great stuff here on QZ, which I read, and sometimes follow up on, or which I direct certain people within the Queen circle towards. BUT it is littered with so much pollution and unrelated trash and stupidity from people who know nothing, that most of the main people I direct to things, get bored very quickly and leave. Is this what you want?
I think it would be great if there was some efficient and ruthless way of filtering away those who seek only to sabotage, hijact, corrupt and generally fuck up what could otherwise be a forum/site with an unusual and enviable reputation. This is, as far as I can see, the main reason that a lot of key people avoid this site.
It COULD be very different. At the moment QZ's reputation is far from enviable. Of course there will be those to disagree with this, but those people would argue with ANYTHING at all, just for the sake of it. But you know what I mean.
If QueenZone were a high street shop, many of the people who come in and abuse it, who try to pollute and break it, would surely be thrown out - some with a good and well-earned smack round the ear as they were ejected. But here on QZ, ANY nasty sod can say what he/she likes - to disrupt good conversation and block proper progress, to the huge detriment of it all. It's so tedious and, I think, unnecessary.
There seems to be NO policing, no care, no monitoring of this sight. Imagine if you tried to run a shop or office company that way!
Why can't there be some sensible filtering of those who use and abuse this site? Ok, I might get thrown off too, as too might the mean and moody Poppy (who said she made a 13-years old QZ-er cry and bugger off), but that might not be a bad thing.
I for one would certainly sacrifice myself and my extremely amusing and entertaining presence, and my genius comments and huge
Greg, could you please reply to my post on page 3?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The collectors lists i saw the Hamburg concert on were of a couple of Lynyrd Skynyrd collectors, and 1 Queen collector, of whom lives in Jacksonville, Fla. and has been a huge collector of both LS and Queen for many of years, and i know this person well. Her and her husband have been to many, and i mean many of the Queen conventions over the years, and she has some awesome rarities.[/QUOTE]
There have been so many times where people have said this thing exists and that thing exists, and 99 times out of 100, they never come to fruition. We therefore are filled with skepticism when yet another person comes along saying they've heard of a couple concerts that aren't circulating among Queen collectors. So, if you can provide us with names and email addresses of these collectors you've mentioned, then we'll be happy to get in contact with them, and see where things go from there.
There have been so many times where people have said this thing exists and that thing exists, and 99 times out of 100, they never come to fruition. We therefore are filled with skepticism when yet another person comes along saying they've heard of a couple concerts that aren't circulating among Queen collectors. So, if you can provide us with names and email addresses of these collectors you've mentioned, then we'll be happy to get in contact with them, and see where things go from there.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The collectors lists i saw the Hamburg concert on were of a couple of Lynyrd Skynyrd collectors, and 1 Queen collector, of whom lives in Jacksonville, Fla. and has been a huge collector of both LS and Queen for many of years, and i know this person well. Her and her husband have been to many, and i mean many of the Queen conventions over the years, and she has some awesome rarities.[/QUOTE]
There have been so many times where people have said this thing exists and that thing exists, and 99 times out of 100, they never come to fruition. We therefore are filled with skepticism when yet another person comes along saying they've heard of a couple concerts that aren't circulating among Queen collectors. So, if you can provide us with names and email addresses of these collectors you've mentioned, then we'll be happy to get in contact with them, and see where things go from there.
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As i stated in another thread, i didn't say that i saw Hamburg or KNOW that it exists! I simply said that i have seen it on Collectors lists in the past, but does that mean that i am saying it is 100% acurate or 100% real? No it does not. I just wish that people here (not you GH) would relise that just because collectors aren't active in qz that does NOT mean that they don't have anything rare or they aren't anybody when it comes to Queen collecting, acutally it means they have better things to do than to hang around the web all day. And i will NOT give out anyones email address', but i will give you a name. Diane McClanahan. I have known here and her husband Lacy for about 12 years give or take a year.
There have been so many times where people have said this thing exists and that thing exists, and 99 times out of 100, they never come to fruition. We therefore are filled with skepticism when yet another person comes along saying they've heard of a couple concerts that aren't circulating among Queen collectors. So, if you can provide us with names and email addresses of these collectors you've mentioned, then we'll be happy to get in contact with them, and see where things go from there.
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As i stated in another thread, i didn't say that i saw Hamburg or KNOW that it exists! I simply said that i have seen it on Collectors lists in the past, but does that mean that i am saying it is 100% acurate or 100% real? No it does not. I just wish that people here (not you GH) would relise that just because collectors aren't active in qz that does NOT mean that they don't have anything rare or they aren't anybody when it comes to Queen collecting, acutally it means they have better things to do than to hang around the web all day. And i will NOT give out anyones email address', but i will give you a name. Diane McClanahan. I have known here and her husband Lacy for about 12 years give or take a year.
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/profile.aspx?q=918
We can all ask her of course whether YSM is telling the truth. You see its that easy ;)
We can all ask her of course whether YSM is telling the truth. You see its that easy ;)