[QUOTE] [b]Martin Packer wrote:[/b]
So where DID the original idea that Andy Gibb was involved with Play The Game come from?[/QUOTE]
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inu-liger
[QUOTE] [b]Martin Packer wrote:[/b]
So where DID the original idea that Andy Gibb was involved with Play The Game come from?[/QUOTE]
The Official Fan Club Spring '80 magazine issue. Here is the article responsible (Note: Not my scan, the edge is cut off as is. This came from the FC magazine scan lot that was uploaded here in 2011 I believe)
PS. Do your research next time, rocknrolllover.
Martin Packer
Thanks @inu-liger!
AlexRocks
WOW! It's the ending of the article that is AMAZING! I wish the rest could be posted! They are talking about doing one of the earliest "music home videos"! I've only seen a few in the few years before "Greatest Flix I" by anyone. If I recall Tina Turner, Alice Cooper, and Black Sabbath had one each at least from 1978 on. Of course few people even know about them because of the time that they came out...
Apocalipsis_Darko
Is true about Andy Gibb. Confirmed by Mack.
MackMantilla
I still wonder why the live albums haven't been re-issued by Universal yet..
Heavenite
[QUOTE] [b]MackMantilla wrote:[/b]
I still wonder why the live albums haven't been re-issued by Universal yet..[/QUOTE]
Actually I think Brian making the Pro Tools admission is surprising! Because "final albums" do really well, just like "final tours" do. And I can think they the reason he would have said what he said was if there was going to be more than one more Queen album to come. Maybe he also wanted to come clean about it in advance and to also justify why Made in Heaven was no longer going to be the last album. And if this was also going to be the "final album, and then it wasn't, well that could cause a fair bit of criticism.
So now looking back, the lack of a new album for 18 years is because of no Pro Tools. A second reason might have been not wanting to cause any upset in Freddie's bereaved family, I mean it would have been harder for them to move on with Freddie on the radio all the time.
I would think another factor would be not wanting to mess with Freddie's legacy. And then a fourth one might be sales, as I seem to recall that Prince became "The artist formally known as Prince" because his record company wanted him to slow the release of new material, when I seem to recall him saying that he had enough material in the can, even way back then, to keep releasing new material out to 2025.
And now there;s going to be at least one more album! And with Brian and Roger not getting any younger, like the rest of us, I'm sure they would want to be around for at least some of whatever else they want to release. And whatever that is might well have been worked on years ago. Err.....after the release of Pro Tools of course!
I still wonder why the live albums haven't been re-issued by Universal yet..[/QUOTE]
Actually I think Brian making the Pro Tools admission is surprising! Because "final albums" do really well, just like "final tours" do. And I can think they the reason he would have said what he said was if there was going to be more than one more Queen album to come. Maybe he also wanted to come clean about it in advance and to also justify why Made in Heaven was no longer going to be the last album. And if this was also going to be the "final album, and then it wasn't, well that could cause a fair bit of criticism.
So now looking back, the lack of a new album for 18 years is because of no Pro Tools. A second reason might have been not wanting to cause any upset in Freddie's bereaved family, I mean it would have been harder for them to move on with Freddie on the radio all the time.
I would think another factor would be not wanting to mess with Freddie's legacy. And then a fourth one might be sales, as I seem to recall that Prince became "The artist formally known as Prince" because his record company wanted him to slow the release of new material, when I seem to recall him saying that he had enough material in the can, even way back then, to keep releasing new material out to 2025.
And now there;s going to be at least one more album! And with Brian and Roger not getting any younger, like the rest of us, I'm sure they would want to be around for at least some of whatever else they want to release. And whatever that is might well have been worked on years ago. Err.....after the release of Pro Tools of course!
Adam Baboolal
[QUOTE] [b]Heavenite wrote:[/b]So now looking back, the lack of a new album for 18 years is because of no Pro Tools.[/QUOTE]
Someone doesn't know how old Pro Tools is :P
Someone doesn't know how old Pro Tools is :P
inu-liger
Yeah, Pro Tools was actually used during the production of MIH. The Beach Boys even recorded an album entirely on Pro Tools around the time Innuendo was released.
EDWOOD
Like Inu-liger says, this technology has been around a lot longer then what Brian kind of refers to. He kind of makes out this work he is doing on Queen Forever can only be done NOW when in fact they cold have done it at any time.
I also find it hard to believe that Brian and Roger have only recently discovered this material. In the podcast that Greg Brooks did recently he said that the first thing he did was to go through all the huge archive collection (I think at one time it was mentioned this was over 4,000 tapes) and get it into some kind of order. He did say that when QP asked him for recommendations of potential tracks to put on the 2nd disc of the 'deluxe' remastered albums in 2011 he cold refer to his notes so it didn't take nowhere near as long to come up with a list of potential tracks for QP to whittle down.
I'm sure that with the mountains of archive recordings that has been collated by Greg over the years, QP could provide us with more then one full album of unreleased tracks. The question is, would they want to?
It looks like we're getting a handful of tracks at most, maybe with the MJ tracks on top, or they may be released separately. If we do want to hear all the rest of the stuff in its unremastered, rough version we'll have to hope that eventually QP will put out some kind of anthology. Yes I know this has been discussed a thousand times n here before.
I also find it hard to believe that Brian and Roger have only recently discovered this material. In the podcast that Greg Brooks did recently he said that the first thing he did was to go through all the huge archive collection (I think at one time it was mentioned this was over 4,000 tapes) and get it into some kind of order. He did say that when QP asked him for recommendations of potential tracks to put on the 2nd disc of the 'deluxe' remastered albums in 2011 he cold refer to his notes so it didn't take nowhere near as long to come up with a list of potential tracks for QP to whittle down.
I'm sure that with the mountains of archive recordings that has been collated by Greg over the years, QP could provide us with more then one full album of unreleased tracks. The question is, would they want to?
It looks like we're getting a handful of tracks at most, maybe with the MJ tracks on top, or they may be released separately. If we do want to hear all the rest of the stuff in its unremastered, rough version we'll have to hope that eventually QP will put out some kind of anthology. Yes I know this has been discussed a thousand times n here before.
rocknrolllover
I think things were exactly as said Greg Brooks, and what Greg discovered the records mentioned by Brian. In archives many unreleased recordings, but to the audience will presented only a small part.
And I think Brian and Roger need think about the second album on the basis of these records, still there is time, or it's time prepare the anthology
And I think Brian and Roger need think about the second album on the basis of these records, still there is time, or it's time prepare the anthology
Heavenite
I guess I should have checked how long Pro Tools had been around. I sort of knew it had been around a while, but why would Brian give it as the reason for possible future releases now if it obviously wasn't? I did give three other reasons for the lack of record releases over the years, that I think could be relevant, but for whatever the actual reason(s), they have now decided to put out an album of tracks.
But with such a large volume of recordings, if that is indeed the case, then we may be at the start of a run of new recordings! Hard to believe I know after so long without anything, but we are now well over 20 years since Freddie's death, and maybe Brian and Roger have felt that now is the time to start releasing material again before it's too late, for them at least.
But with such a large volume of recordings, if that is indeed the case, then we may be at the start of a run of new recordings! Hard to believe I know after so long without anything, but we are now well over 20 years since Freddie's death, and maybe Brian and Roger have felt that now is the time to start releasing material again before it's too late, for them at least.
musicfanyes
I really loved parts of the Cosmos Rocks album. For me personally I liked the tracks which sounded more Queenlike and less like Paul Rodgers, no offense to him. I just prefer Queen music with that melodic and bombastic touch and Paul Rodgers is more of a bluesy vocalist, he doesn't have the tone or inflections or vocal timbres Mercury had, not even similar at all. The original Queen had hard rock, classical inflections, opera and classic pop hooks all rolled into one. I think the last Queen song in 97 the tribute song had that, and a few Cosmos Rocks songs like the title cut, Surf's up and May's We Believe was nice.
I'm super excited about these "new" Mercury Queen tracks, the point I was trying to get at in the last paragraph, I wish instead of a compilation album, If they have say five or six "good":"new" Mercury tracks they are fashioning into "new" Queen tracks, I wish May and Taylor would write and sing lead on three or four additional new songs to flesh out the album, cool pop hook songs like Taylors Cosmos Rocks or Surf's Up type of thing. But I'll take what I can get.
Possibly the compilation album way of marketing will go bigger, because they will be packaging some new songs, alongside some existing well known Queen hits. But for my money I'd rather have 10-12 new Queen songs as an all new Queen album. Why? well because a last new Queen album of all new material, say there were 10 songs, say six were these new Freddie songs, and the other four were new Taylor and May songs sung by Taylor and May, that would be more reflective of how Queen albums were actually done, most Queen albums had a few gems written by May or Taylor or both or even Deacon.
In any event I was excited enough about these new tracks to join this forum after several years of just lurking about. Does anyone have any fresh news about the new tracks, how many are there, what will the rest of the album consist of.
New
I was sad to hear that they are aiming for the later Queen "sound" I prefer the 70's Queen sounds of A Day at the Races, News of the World, A night at the Opera, Jazz, that era was the best for Queen, in my opinion, I don't personally like the songwriting or production nearly as much on later albums like Innuendo or the Miracle or a Kind of Magic, I mean to each their own, Queen is Queen and they are always top notch, but I will certainly buy two copies of the new album the day it comes available, but wouldn't some of you rather they did an entire new album and fleshed out enough new material by Roger and Brian writing a few new songs so they have enough? Wouldn't you prefer that given a choice?
I'm super excited about these "new" Mercury Queen tracks, the point I was trying to get at in the last paragraph, I wish instead of a compilation album, If they have say five or six "good":"new" Mercury tracks they are fashioning into "new" Queen tracks, I wish May and Taylor would write and sing lead on three or four additional new songs to flesh out the album, cool pop hook songs like Taylors Cosmos Rocks or Surf's Up type of thing. But I'll take what I can get.
Possibly the compilation album way of marketing will go bigger, because they will be packaging some new songs, alongside some existing well known Queen hits. But for my money I'd rather have 10-12 new Queen songs as an all new Queen album. Why? well because a last new Queen album of all new material, say there were 10 songs, say six were these new Freddie songs, and the other four were new Taylor and May songs sung by Taylor and May, that would be more reflective of how Queen albums were actually done, most Queen albums had a few gems written by May or Taylor or both or even Deacon.
In any event I was excited enough about these new tracks to join this forum after several years of just lurking about. Does anyone have any fresh news about the new tracks, how many are there, what will the rest of the album consist of.
New
I was sad to hear that they are aiming for the later Queen "sound" I prefer the 70's Queen sounds of A Day at the Races, News of the World, A night at the Opera, Jazz, that era was the best for Queen, in my opinion, I don't personally like the songwriting or production nearly as much on later albums like Innuendo or the Miracle or a Kind of Magic, I mean to each their own, Queen is Queen and they are always top notch, but I will certainly buy two copies of the new album the day it comes available, but wouldn't some of you rather they did an entire new album and fleshed out enough new material by Roger and Brian writing a few new songs so they have enough? Wouldn't you prefer that given a choice?
Day dop
If they're aiming for the later Queen sound you'd most likely get another album that sounds like Made in Heaven. Brian's guitar would sound much the same, and Roger would be using big sounding drums. I think they've got quite set in their ways like that.
matt z
Don't suppose the song SOUVENIR will get it's release this time around?