Dave Fuller At It Again

The last I heard, Fuller's YouTube channel was deleted again - and yet again, the fucker rises from the ashes, and blatantly promotes his "rarities for sale". When is this ass going to be taken down?

http://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRFuller

we may never know! thats the tale of DavidRFuller

Jesus - on top of everything else, QPL can't even do this job properly. Protect your fucking property, you numpties!

You don't need to hire Shatner & Spader for this, guys - the smallest law firm would do. Even a tiny court case would see this jawbone-with-an-internet-connection running for the hills. Get it done.

Seriously...??? Wtf

I would love to see Shatner & Spader in action.

[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]

The last I heard, Fuller's YouTube channel was deleted again - and yet again, the fucker rises from the ashes, and blatantly promotes his "rarities for sale". When is this ass going to be taken down?

http://www.youtube.com/user/DaveRFuller [/QUOTE]

Was it actually deleted, or was it in fact only suspended?
Some of the videos have been uploaded months ago, which seem to make it physically impossible for them to have been deleted...

I would guess that QP cannot ask for ONE person's Queen videos to be deleted, they would have to ask for all of their videos and songs to be removed from youtube.

I would also assume that there are no grounds for denying his "for sale / for trade" -advert, because it doesn't actully specify which products are in question.


What I would suggest for the users of QueenZone is to NOT post about his return and advertisements on youtube, because that's only going to get him more attention and potential customers.

If you want him to be forgotten, you have to publicly ignore him.

[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]

Was it actually deleted, or was it in fact only suspended?
Some of the videos have been uploaded months ago, which seem to make it physically impossible for them to have been deleted...

I would guess that QP cannot ask for ONE person's Queen videos to be deleted, they would have to ask for all of their videos and songs to be removed from youtube.

I would also assume that there are no grounds for denying his "for sale / for trade" -advert, because it doesn't actully specify which products are in question.


What I would suggest for the users of QueenZone is to NOT post about his return and advertisements on youtube, because that's only going to get him more attention and potential customers.

If you want him to be forgotten, you have to publicly ignore him.[/QUOTE]

1 - Suspended, deleted, whatever....YT shouldn't be allowing the majority of this content to be up and running.

2 - I'm sure QP are trying to crack down on ALL of this, not just DRF. The reason he's being singled out here is because he's advertising them for sale. Which brings me to...

3 - He may not mention the tracks specifically, but he is saying he's selling MP3/Flac etc - which he simply cannot do: therefore on copyright alone, there are grounds for denying his advert.

and finally...

4 - You have a point (about posting about his return). However, here's a point, too: here, at QZ, we all know about DRF and what he's been up to, so it's not giving him any more (or less) attention than he already had. All I'm stating is that he's up and running again, and that could easily be for the attention of GB/GT for report to QP as well as the attention of the forum users.

If it DID give him more exposure, then it would be made easier for QP to prove what an adverse impact that channel is making.

[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]1 - Suspended, deleted, whatever....YT shouldn't be allowing the majority of this content to be up and running.

2 - I'm sure QP are trying to crack down on ALL of this, not just DRF. The reason he's being singled out here is because he's advertising them for sale. Which brings me to...[/QUOTE]

Youtube is based on the right to upload any video material regardless of any existing copyright laws, whether you are the actual owner of the material or not.

I don't know whether that has any relevance to the income you might get from your videos, but the basic concept is that any video is allowed.

The artist / owner of the copyrights can decide that their material can't be distributed in there, but that includes ALL material, not just from the sources you don't happen to like.


[QUOTE] [b]3 - He may not mention the tracks specifically, but he is saying he's selling MP3/Flac etc - which he simply cannot do: therefore on copyright alone, there are grounds for denying his advert.[/QUOTE]

There isn't, and you know it.
Queen rarities could mean his personal interview with Brian, which he's absolutely free to sell.

You would need the complete list of items available for sale, with item by item description of contents, full provenances and statements of ownership and copyright from the artists / recorders / copyright owners involved, etc., etc.

If e.g. a Reaction acetate has been sold to the general public by the original artist, and the current owner of the acetate has made computer files to be shared among his friends, any legal claim to remove the material from his youtube account isn't going to hold. David wouldn't be allowed to sell the material, but there's really nothing to stop him from uploading it and trading it with whomever he likes.

The reason why David keeps coming back is because there's too much work for QP (in comparison to the finacial damage he's making) to justify the cost.

Oh FFS! Is this ever going to stop??

Tero, you are so full of guff, it's unbelievable: when I opened my YT account, and went to upload items, I got a message specifically stating that you are prohibited from uploading copyrighted material, unless you actually own the copyright. Yes, folk still do it, but videos are often pulled from YT due to copyright violation - and YOU KNOW THAT.

You also know that the material he's selling ain't personally recorded interviews: you're just being awkward.

You also know that QP have requested all demos, out-takes etc are removed from YT as a whole, not just from Fuller's account: don't make out this is a witch-hunt.

DF for president....how much have QP done to get the cents out of the pockets of their devoted fans?...totally no respect....it started after the death of our beloved one..., remixes this , remixes that..hits this , hits that...and now this controverse about this guy.....and the concerts with the a......s as lead singer..just to make more money..LOOK IN THE MIRROR MY FRIENDS!!

[QUOTE] [b]bootlegger wrote:[/b]

DF for president....how much have QP done to get the cents out of the pockets of their devoted fans?...totally no respect....it started after the death of our beloved one..., remixes this , remixes that..hits this , hits that...and now this controverse about this guy.....and the concerts with the a......s as lead singer..just to make more money..LOOK IN THE MIRROR MY FRIENDS!![/QUOTE]

Fast is that DF does not own any of those recordings whereas QPL do and they can more or less do with the recordings what they want.

Why dont you make some music, dont release it, let me copy it and then make some money out of it.

Yawn ...

Let he who does not own bootleg material cast the first stone.

Of course it is a witch hunt. Fuller is not the only one to sell bootleg Queen material, yet he gets nearly 100% of the negative attention.

[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]

Yawn ...

Let he who does not own bootleg material cast the first stone.

Of course it is a witch hunt. Fuller is not the only one to sell bootleg Queen material, yet he gets nearly 100% of the negative attention.[/QUOTE]

And a big yawn right back at you, as your answers are always the same - you miss the point.

There's a difference between owning the stuff that was recorded at live shows by others fans, and circulated via trades and sharing - QP give us the freedom to do without reproach here on QZ - and selling stuff that THEY recorded and haven't yet released.

It's no witch hunt. QP are trying to rid YT of all of the unreleased stuff. DRF is the only one advertising sale of stuff on YT, so it's only natural that he'll face negativity. If there were others so blatantly and publicly at it too, then they'd face the same heat.

But go ahead and continue to miss the point.

Don't even bother with what Panchghani says. Even with stated facts backed up by QPL rep Greg Brooks, he'll never change his tune at this rate.