Dave Fuller At It Again

[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]

Thistleby 1980, re:

>Have you ever heard the phrase "practice what you preach"?......

splicksplack is clearly a buffoon - he / she hasn't got any reasoned arguement at all and forgets the implication behind what was written in the first reply or simply isn't able to read to help jog the memory on.

In fact I can imagine splicksplack as one of those irritating traders at a record fair who has a table fully of nicely packaged bootlegs promising great content, only for the poor buyer to find that they have a speeded up version of a BBC session with some audience noise inserted between the tracks.[/QUOTE]

I'd love to see you try to handle a proper debate.

The initial reply, if you read it properly, is about degrees of seriousness. The reference to "lifting a few quid from the pockets of millionaires" is used to point out that the crazed obsession with Fuller is out of kilter with the seriousness of what he is doing. Any implication comes from your own over-zealous analysis.

The assertion that I can't read is just weird considering I'm communicating on this forum.

And the 'record fair' bit is just bonkers. Is that your attempt at an analogy?

Get back to The Sun. You'll find it more rewarding.

"It's a few quid being lifted from the pockets of millionaires"

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the millionaires in this equation? Fuck them - the issue here is that Fuller's a known shitbag. I mean, can it be broadcast any more clearly to you? I'm sorry but that business with offering that fake rarity for sale really clinched it for me. (I bet he stops offering it soon, too - a good crook knows when to change the menu).

Anyway, I don't understand the problem with criticising him. People are allowed to make these observations about Mr. Fuller, and (surprise surprise) I'm not really seeing any of them being refuted in any cogent or evidentiary way. What the hell's with that?

I really am sick of the overwhelming stench of cats piss in this discussion. "Fuller gave me free shit! He's okay in my book"- can there be anything sadder? I think we can (and should) adopt some higher standards for who we want to deal with in life, and use a bit of logic beyond vested interest and 'who cares if this guy is a cunt, I'll just go along with it for my free MP3s'. I like rare stuff as much as the next guy but I'll be damned if I have to suck up to his sort to get it - might as well be a meth head at that rate.

Probably overstating it here, but I've just had an epiphany of sorts and I'm trying to articulate these new depths of disgust I'm experiencing. Sorry about that.

^ Couldn't have put it much better myself.

It's a pity that reason won't win out in an argument like this, because the deadbeats are so busy spurting tripe that the whole thread becomes a shit-filled swamp. Somewhere, somehow, the POINT has been lost in the mire.

[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]

I really am sick of the overwhelming stench of cats piss in this discussion. "Fuller gave me free shit! He's okay in my book"- can there be anything sadder? I think we can (and should) adopt some higher standards for who we want to deal with in life, and use a bit of logic beyond vested interest and 'who cares if this guy is a cunt, I'll just go along with it for my free MP3s'. I like rare stuff as much as the next guy but I'll be damned if I have to suck up to his sort to get it - might as well be a meth head at that rate.
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And there we have it.

Still waiting for a shite post from you. You're squeaky clean accurate with everything you say here.

Flipping heck! Everyone seems to have their own "I know what's going on here" when clearly everyone is posting at odd times or are properly pissed.

"Deadbeats", "Cat's piss", "Meth Head" ????

As I said. it's only D. Fuller selling some crap out-takes etc. Get over it.

There's always collecting stamps. (Freddie liked that).

^ "It's only....." is the wrong attitude. But you know that!

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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b] "It's a few quid being lifted from the pockets of millionaires"

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the millionaires in this equation? Fuck them - the issue here is that Fuller's a known shitbag. I mean, can it be broadcast any more clearly to you? I'm sorry but that business with offering that fake rarity for sale really clinched it for me. (I bet he stops offering it soon, too - a good crook knows when to change the menu).

Anyway, I don't understand the problem with criticising him. People are allowed to make these observations about Mr. Fuller, and (surprise surprise) I'm not really seeing any of them being refuted in any cogent or evidentiary way. What the hell's with that?

I really am sick of the overwhelming stench of cats piss in this discussion. "Fuller gave me free shit! He's okay in my book"- can there be anything sadder? I think we can (and should) adopt some higher standards for who we want to deal with in life, and use a bit of logic beyond vested interest and 'who cares if this guy is a cunt, I'll just go along with it for my free MP3s'. I like rare stuff as much as the next guy but I'll be damned if I have to suck up to his sort to get it - might as well be a meth head at that rate.

Probably overstating it here, but I've just had an epiphany of sorts and I'm trying to articulate these new depths of disgust I'm experiencing. Sorry about that.[/QUOTE]

Mr. Zebonka,You condemn Fuller as a known "shitbag". Go ahead. Fill your boots. But you are not Queen. You are in no better position than Fuller to decide what happens with certain unreleased material.

He (Fuller) is as relevant in this as you are. i.e. zero.

^ if you don't care about this, then why are you still responding? Zeb never said that it was his right to decide what happened with the material, but it is his right to express his opinion - which is correct, btw - that Fuller shouldn't be doing this. But.......you know that!

[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b]

I don't recall ever denying anyone expression. And your grubby comparison is offensive and probably says something about the way your mind works......

......If someone bangs on about it, as is their right, my equally rightful response is 'tough shit, go find a life'.

i obviously don't need to respond to your concluding incredible insight.[/QUOTE]

But you see, you ARE denying folk expression - telling people "tough shit, get a life" is tantamount to bullying - belittling people into shutting up because you can't be arsed with what they're saying. That borders on censorship. The simple thing would be to just not take part in the discussion.

And, if someone is banging on about it, then the polite thing to say would be "I wouldn't let it upset you".....but no, not you - you have to tell us to "get a life". Which is rich, anyway, as you are persistently jumping on anything we say - to reason with you - with increasingly irritating retort. If you don't care.......

If my "grubby" comparison offended you, I sincerely apologise. I could have used a better analogy on hindsight, but you still get the point - if we took your nonchalant stance on everything that didn't directly affect us, then where would we be? In a world where anything goes? That doesn't show that I have a shitty mind - it showed that I have reason, which you're lacking in, a bit. Making derogatory remarks about my "state of mind" is offensive......but you wouldn't care a jot about that.

Finally, as you don't have to respond to my "concluding incredible insight".......DON'T!!

I quite imagine splicksplack had 'Too Late For Goodbyes' playing in the background when he decided I was so irrelevant that he needed to post two messages in response.

Having said that, choosing which of your posts is more off-base or ridiculous is like choosing which one of my legs to cut off.

"You are in no better position than Fuller to decide what happens with certain unreleased material"

This is an utterly cretinous attitude. If this idea of asking that 'fans' not sell someone else's music (and in some cases, mislabelled fan mixes) is seen as meddling or overstepping my boundaries as a customer, then I don't know what to tell you. It should be common fucking sense.

"He (Fuller) is as relevant in this as you are. i.e. zero"

Another pillowfucker-grade comment, honestly. Waltzing onto a forum and saying 'hey, you're irrelevant in this discussion!' displays such a level of cognitive dissonance as to make me wonder whether or not I've actually woken up yet or if this is another one of those weird dreams that's going to end with Lauren Holly pouring hot wax on my balls.

Does this concept really need explaining to you? This is a forum. If posting my opinion is redundant, then so is your post informing me so - and so on, and so on, and so on. Posts that insinuate 'heh, you sure write long posts, you have no life!' are also meaningless - you wouldn't be responding unless you were the same shit in the same bucket. And same goes for 'this topic just isn't that important!', largely because you're telling me something I already know - Dave R Fuller is not a huge deal. But I have this funny (some might call it sick) concern with the idea that the truth of his idiocy is being laughed down in this one instance because ... 'hey, he gave us free shit'. I find that disgusting. I'm allowed to comment on it, on an internet where it's okay for a site like Chimpout to exist. Know what I mean, jellybean?

"As I said. it's only D. Fuller selling some crap out-takes etc. Get over it"

I don't approve of him selling stuff that is falsely labelled to fans that don't know better. Fuck me for actually caring about people in this one, bizarre area. I've stated my opinion about it in the relevant thread. Where I differ from the collectors of the board is that I am sympathetic to the idea of just 'uploading everything', and I'm not into the idea of rare stuff being exchanged for money - but if these are serious folk who at least know the provenance of what it is they're exchanging money for, then it can at least be said that they're not being ripped off. That's their business.
Fuller makes it my business, as far as I'm concerned, by openly targeting the same kind of idiot that'll post on his videos "YOU ARE MY HERO DAVE", all the while taking their money and having a good old fashioned chuckle when they buy something that's just a fan-edit from 2005 or whenever it was.

And yeah, I get it - I'm one windbag here, my complaining isn't going to change, but it's a fucking forum and this is where the complaints go. I feel as though I've gotten this off my chest, in any case, other than to say I hope he gets what's coming to him from QPL - or at least changes his behaviour. Or (and this is my most sincere hope), he was never really offering a fake item for sale, and someone just posted that list of offerings to see me tilt at windmills, in which case - bravo, you gave me something to do while taking a break from cleaning my car.

"If someone bangs on about it, as is their right, my equally rightful response is 'tough shit, go find a life'"

One of these days, you'll say that to someone with a better life than you.

PS. I don't know of you splicksplack, and have no real issue with you as a forumite. I do find your attitudes unfortunate though, and hope fervently that they're just an internet thing and that you're a more moral person in the real world.

[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]

Another pillowfucker-grade comment, honestly. Waltzing onto a forum and saying 'hey, you're irrelevant in this discussion!' displays such a level of cognitive dissonance as to make me wonder whether or not I've actually woken up yet or if this is another one of those weird dreams that's going to end with Lauren Holly pouring hot wax on my balls.

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You are a brilliant writer. Have you considered getting a job at cracked.com ? You're just their type, and they pay very well.

Agree with Bob there, Zeb. You should seriously consider applying for a position over at Cracked, your style of writing and methods of delivering your arguments, points or zingers would certainly blend in very well over there! :-)

Careful now, you'll have splicksplack accusing you of shilling for my big tilt at the title.

Nerd Convention.

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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b] I quite imagine splicksplack had 'Too Late For Goodbyes' playing in the background when he decided I was so irrelevant that he needed to post two messages in response.

Having said that, choosing which of your posts is more off-base or ridiculous is like choosing which one of my legs to cut off.

"You are in no better position than Fuller to decide what happens with certain unreleased material"

This is an utterly cretinous attitude. If this idea of asking that 'fans' not sell someone else's music (and in some cases, mislabelled fan mixes) is seen as meddling or overstepping my boundaries as a customer, then I don't know what to tell you. It should be common fucking sense.

[b]Missed the point love. I didn't accuse anyone of "meddling or overstepping my boundaries" I pointed out that you have no more right than Fuller to say what happens with Queen's property, not that you can't shout your views on this forum. The music is theirs, not yours or Fullers. Of course you can express your opinion on it just as I can point out that it's misguided.[/b]

"He (Fuller) is as relevant in this as you are. i.e. zero"

Another pillowfucker-grade comment, honestly. Waltzing onto a forum and saying 'hey, you're irrelevant in this discussion!' displays such a level of cognitive dissonance as to make me wonder whether or not I've actually woken up yet or if this is another one of those weird dreams that's going to end with Lauren Holly pouring hot wax on my balls.

Does this concept really need explaining to you? This is a forum. If posting my opinion is redundant, then so is your post informing me so - and so on, and so on, and so on. Posts that insinuate 'heh, you sure write long posts, you have no life!' are also meaningless - you wouldn't be responding unless you were the same shit in the same bucket. And same goes for 'this topic just isn't that important!', largely because you're telling me something I already know - Dave R Fuller is not a huge deal. But I have this funny (some might call it sick) concern with the idea that the truth of his idiocy is being laughed down in this one instance because ... 'hey, he gave us free shit'. I find that disgusting. I'm allowed to comment on it, on an internet where it's okay for a site like Chimpout to exist. Know what I mean, jellybean?
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Cherry-picking lines out of context is the weapon of the someone in a corner isn't it (especially with added insults worthy of a 1970s comic)? So just to help you along... I was referring to  your relevance in what happens to Queen's property, not your relevance in discussions on a forum. I'm sure theirs something vital out their in your 12,000+ posts.  (jeeez, that's a lot of time isn't it? Isn't there a local food bank or something that you could help out with?)[/b]

"As I said. it's only D. Fuller selling some crap out-takes etc. Get over it"

I don't approve of him selling stuff that is falsely labelled to fans that don't know better. Fuck me for actually caring about people in this one, bizarre area. I've stated my opinion about it in the relevant thread. Where I differ from the collectors of the board is that I am sympathetic to the idea of just 'uploading everything', and I'm not into the idea of rare stuff being exchanged for money - but if these are serious folk who at least know the provenance of what it is they're exchanging money for, then it can at least be said that they're not being ripped off. That's their business.
Fuller makes it my business, as far as I'm concerned, by openly targeting the same kind of idiot that'll post on his videos "YOU ARE MY HERO DAVE", all the while taking their money and having a good old fashioned chuckle when they buy something that's just a fan-edit from 2005 or whenever it was.

And yeah, I get it - I'm one windbag here, my complaining isn't going to change, but it's a fucking forum and this is where the complaints go. I feel as though I've gotten this off my chest, in any case, other than to say I hope he gets what's coming to him from QPL - or at least changes his behaviour. Or (and this is my most sincere hope), he was never really offering a fake item for sale, and someone just posted that list of offerings to see me tilt at windmills, in which case - bravo, you gave me something to do while taking a break from cleaning my car.

[b]I understand your point of view here. Just baffled why it concerns you THAT much.[/b]

"If someone bangs on about it, as is their right, my equally rightful response is 'tough shit, go find a life'"

One of these days, you'll say that to someone with a better life than you.

[b]Depends on your definition of a better life. Having a private Brian May performance, a blue vinyl Bohemian Rhapsody with goblets and satisfied in the knowledge that Fuller is on death row or health, wealth and love.[/b] [b]I won't find many that can beat me on the latter. [/b]

PS. I don't know of you splicksplack, and have no real issue with you as a forumite. I do find your attitudes unfortunate though, and hope fervently that they're just an internet thing and that you're a more moral person in the real world.

[b]No, I'm a cunt. Mis-quote that.[/b][/QUOTE]