"I don't understand why some of you are angry with David R Fuller"
It might have something to do with him being a two-faced sack of shit, a blatant profiteer and an attempted purveyor of falsely attributed rarities. It's the last bit that shits me the most, too. That he'd offer something like 'You Take My Life' suggests a critically low understanding of the stuff in his possession. I'd have to go so far as to say that he doesn't actually listen to Queen at all; he just listens to the wavering, feeble (and inaccurate) voice in his head that says "I'm good at something! I'm good at something!".
But that's cool, we should go easy on him. 'He gave me free shit!' is always a good reason to ignore a flawed personality.
(I have to add - I have no dog in the Fanthology fight. I'm sure I find the behaviour on many fronts there to be pretty lousy, but this thread's about my main man Fuller, so there you go).
splicksplack · Member since
It seems to me that the only people that should have issue with Fuller is QPL.
He is potentially depriving them of income (well he would be if they released the stuff). But it's on such a small scale that they probably don't see the point (and cost) in chasing him.
If other's are pissed off then tough shit. It's Queen's music, not yours.
Thistle · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b]
If other's are pissed off then tough shit. [/QUOTE]
What makes it "tough shit"?
Can't we express opinion on something, even if it doesn't directly affect us?
Imagine this - millions of people in the UK are outraged at the news coming from operation Yewtree, and you come along and say "tough shit - it wasn't your children.....".
Twat.
bootlegger · Member since
apocalip darko.....you get the point...!!
tero! 48531 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
What makes it "tough shit"?
Can't we express opinion on something, even if it doesn't directly affect us?
Imagine this - millions of people in the UK are outraged at the news coming from operation Yewtree, and you come along and say "tough shit - it wasn't your children.....".
Twat.
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The difference is that selling music is a victimless crime, and more importantly none of the parties involved are interested in resolving it.
If you treated all the David Fullers of the world with the seriousness of operation Yewtree, it would be a bit excessive...
For example here in Finland the police searched a house and confiscated a computer from a 9 year old girl because a private copyright organisation reported that she had downloaded one album (a new release which the organisation had been monitoring) from the internet.
Is that the kind of copyright control we want?
Thistle · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
What makes it "tough shit"?
Can't we express opinion on something, even if it doesn't directly affect us?
Imagine this - millions of people in the UK are outraged at the news coming from operation Yewtree, and you come along and say "tough shit - it wasn't your children.....".
Twat.
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The difference is that selling music is a victimless crime, and more importantly none of the parties involved are interested in resolving it.
If you treated all the David Fullers of the world with the seriousness of operation Yewtree, it would be a bit excessive...
For example here in Finland the police searched a house and confiscated a computer from a 9 year old girl because a private copyright organisation reported that she had downloaded one album (a new release which the organisation had been monitoring) from the internet.
Is that the kind of copyright control we want?[/QUOTE]
1 - There is no such thing as a victimless crime.
2 - how do you know that no-one is willing to resolve it?
3 - At no point did I say I treated it the same as OYT. That remark was illustrative, but also tongue-in-cheek: imagine we took splick splack's stance on all things that didn't directly affect us.
4 - Your example may seem a tad much, but if she was intelligent enough to make the download, she was also intelligent enough to know it was wrong. Confiscation of a laptop is nothing - if they had jailed her, we might be talking.
5 - your deliberate awkwardness is becoming tiring. Like the majority of the discussion here, you know the point I'm making, but are taking pedantry to new levels. Don't take everything so bloody literally.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
1 - There is no such thing as a victimless crime.
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Sure there is. It's a crime in some places to whistle on a Sunday morning.
But of course I get your drift. There absolutely is something wrong with making money off of someone else's art without their consent.
That said, this is not comparable to a nine year old girl downloading a Katy Perry album. We've made mix tapes off the radio in the 80s. Naturally there is a happy medium where this kind of thing actually becomes a problem.
splicksplack · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b]
If other's are pissed off then tough shit. [/QUOTE]
What makes it "tough shit"?
Can't we express opinion on something, even if it doesn't directly affect us?
Imagine this - millions of people in the UK are outraged at the news coming from operation Yewtree, and you come along and say "tough shit - it wasn't your children.....".
Twat.
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I don't recall ever denying anyone expression. And your grubby comparison is offensive and probably says something about the way your mind works.
Worrying about some bloke selling some bootlegs, certainly to the ridiculous extent seen on these forums, is bordering on psychotic.
It's a few quid being lifted from the pockets of millionaires. Queen are hardly struggling artists.
If someone bangs on about it, as is their right, my equally rightful response is 'tough shit, go find a life'.
i obviously don't need to respond to your concluding incredible insight.
ITSM · Member since
I must admit that I haven't seen that David R Fuller is selling stuff. At least he's been "giving" us stuff for years - for FREE - on YouTube. I'm thankful to him for letting me hear "You Are The Only One" among others.
dudeofqueen · Member since
splicksplack, re:
>It's a few quid being lifted from the pockets of millionaires. Queen are hardly struggling artists.
That's the most ridiculous reply I've seen to any thead on here, ever. So you're advocating the "lifting" of money from the pockets of millionaires are you? Best hope that said millionaires don't come within arm's reach of you then, eh?
You're a first rate clown.
splicksplack · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
splicksplack, re:
>It's a few quid being lifted from the pockets of millionaires. Queen are hardly struggling artists.
That's the most ridiculous reply I've seen to any thead on here, ever. So you're advocating the "lifting" of money from the pockets of millionaires are you? Best hope that said millionaires don't come within arm's reach of you then, eh?
You're a first rate clown.[/QUOTE]
Well if I'm a clown you're a bit on the dim side.
I didn't advocate stealing in any way.
I pointed out that getting one's knickers in a twist, raising one's blood pressure,and burning the midnight oil to rant on this forum about flogging some bootlegs is potentially a waste of good living time. That is of course unless you have bugger all else to do.
And if my post is "the most ridiculous reply I've seen to any thead on here, ever" I suggest you have the memory of a goldfish or you need your ridiculous meter re-calibrating.
Thistle · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b]
I didn't advocate stealing in any way.
I pointed out that getting one's knickers in a twist, raising one's blood pressure,and burning the midnight oil to rant on this forum about flogging some bootlegs is potentially a waste of good living time. That is of course unless you have bugger all else to do.
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So, let me see.....you are getting YOUR knickers in a twist, raising YOUR blood pressure and burning the midnight oil to rant on this forum about us discussing our opinions on something Queen related (on a Queen forum, of all things - how silly of us). And You tell us that we're wasting OUR good living time?
Have you ever heard the phrase "practice what you preach"?......
dudeofqueen · Member since
Thistleby 1980, re:
>Have you ever heard the phrase "practice what you preach"?......
splicksplack is clearly a buffoon - he / she hasn't got any reasoned arguement at all and forgets the implication behind what was written in the first reply or simply isn't able to read to help jog the memory on.
In fact I can imagine splicksplack as one of those irritating traders at a record fair who has a table fully of nicely packaged bootlegs promising great content, only for the poor buyer to find that they have a speeded up version of a BBC session with some audience noise inserted between the tracks.
splicksplack · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b]
I didn't advocate stealing in any way.
I pointed out that getting one's knickers in a twist, raising one's blood pressure,and burning the midnight oil to rant on this forum about flogging some bootlegs is potentially a waste of good living time. That is of course unless you have bugger all else to do.
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So, let me see.....you are getting YOUR knickers in a twist, raising YOUR blood pressure and burning the midnight oil to rant on this forum about us discussing our opinions on something Queen related (on a Queen forum, of all things - how silly of us). And You tell us that we're wasting OUR good living time?
Have you ever heard the phrase "practice what you preach"?......
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Wel, I made one observation. I have then had to defend myself against people who seem a little put out by what I said.
Hardly the same as the endless rants aginst Fuller that I was referring to.
Clearly people who resort to calling other posters "twats" are the uptight ones.
Thistle · Member since
^ "seem a little put out"? No, just conversing. That's what happens when you receive replies to something you have said.
I then made one observation - that your "observation" lacked reason. If you had stuck to observing, instead of telling people it's "tough shit" and "get a life", then things wouldn't be so personal and you wouldn't be defending yourself.
Am I a twat? Sometimes, yes - it obviously takes one to know one.
Now, if you're really not that interested, you know exactly what to do!
