DF for president....how much have QP done to get the cents out of the pockets of their devoted fans?...totally no respect....it started after the death of our beloved one..., remixes this , remixes that..hits this , hits that...and now this controverse about this guy.....and the concerts with the a......s as lead singer..just to make more money..LOOK IN THE MIRROR MY FRIENDS!![/QUOTE]
No-one forced you to buy it.
You sound very Dutch. Are you?[/QUOTE]
The guy's alright, but I'm kinda disappointed with his stance on this one, considering he was all guns blazing against the bootleggers on eBay.
Still waiting for the list of shoddy shill bidders he was talking about in said thread :)
Thistle · Member since
OK, so someone I know bit the bait and asked him for his list, just out of interest. The list (which I'm sure has been posted somewhere before on QZ) is:
Reaction - Unreleased Live, June 1967 FLAC - Hey Mama (Keep Your Big Mouth Shut), Land of 1000 Dances, It's Gonna Work Out Fine, Slow Down, I Fell Good, Respect, Tell Me, Game Of Love
1984 - Live Thames Rowing Club 1966 15 tracks
Trax - She Didn't Wanna Leave It FLAC (from 1975 12" Original Acetate, Trident Studios, Produced by Freddie (unconfirmed)
Gareth Marks with Brian May, 2 unreleased tracks, 'Go Bopper Go' & 'Bopper's Boogie Woogie' FLAC 1989
1994 Brian May 'Rise Of The Robots' 77 raw sound effects for video game FLAC
Son & Daughter Australian Single Edit aka 'Shitless Version' FLAC
2002 Brian May 'The Fire Within' full version, studio recording FLAC
'Jim Hutton Tape' home recording Freddie on piano 'Send In The Clowns' 'Amazing Grace' "Well Tempered Clavier' and one unknown track. FLAC
Is This The World We Created demo FLAC - added piano
Roger Taylor full 4 minute Olymic Theme FLAC
Pain Is So Close To Pleasure convention demo FLAC
It's A Hard Life convention demo FLAC
Radio Ga Ga US Edit FLAC
One Year Of Love demo FLAC Townhouse Studios 1986
Lady With A Tenor Sax unedited full demo unreleased FLAC
Roger Taylor 'Surrender' Original Version from CD acetate FLAC
Roger Taylor 'Smile' & "I'm The Drummer In A Rock n Roll Band' convention demo great quality wav
Roger Taylor - 'Eternal Ambience' unreleased Electric Fire demo
Don't Stop Me Now/Jealousy 'seagued version' length 1:14 mp3
All Queen Rockband/Guitar Hero multitrack stems
Full length 37 minute Garden Lodge video .vob
Brian May 'Come To Your Senses' convention demo
FBI convention demo
On My Way Up convention vocal demo
Someone To Die For convention demo - guitar only
Ogre Battle Acetate Edit
You Take My Breath Away Digital Sampler Edit
Queen + Wyclef Another One Bites The Dust 'X-Mix'
Full Garden Lodge improvisation 2.29.88 52 minutes FLAC
Heavy Pettin Full acetate collection with bonus tracks 55 tracks FLAC
Love Kills 'Lock And Load' Italian 7" Mix
Living On My Own 'Tape-To-Tape' FLAc 4 mixes, some unreleased
Early Barcelona sessions 'Mike Moran Tape' 7 minutes FLAC
'Peter Freestone Tape' full home sessions with Montserrat Caballe FLAC approx. 70 minutes
Brian May - Cassandra Alternate 2006 Mix
Opposition - 'Sunny' FLAC
Opposition - 'Transit 3' FLAC
Opposition - 'Vehicle' FLAC
Cool Cat Alternate Demo (added guitar, vocals) FLAC
Las Palabras De Amor 10" Acxetate Mix (same as album version) FLAC
Brian May Wilderness unreleased Radio Version FLAC
Keep Yourself Alive "withdrawn Promo Mix" FLAC
Mad The Swine full version with beginning "I've" FLAC
The Cross Shove It SWE-Mix WAV
Queen - You Take My Life unreleased track (unconfirmed)
The Great Pretender 'Film Mix'
We Will Rock You 'The eYe' German Version'
Queen I acetate WAV copy including Keep Yourself Alive unreleased version *completely different take* (haven't checked for any differences in rest of acetate copy)
Queen - 'Battle Scene' unreleased from Townhouse Studios master cassette FLAC
Another One Bites The Dust Columbian Extended Version FLAC
Lily Of The Valley US Single Version FLAC
"The Miracle' Rough Mixes Cassette Tape Capitol Records 11 tracks FLAC
Queen BASIC unreleased remix album
Killer Queen Acetate Version
Happy Little Fuck (poor quality) demo
Play The Game Unreleased Freddy Bastone Mix
Fat Bottomed Girls unreleased 12" mix
Innuendo music video raw edits
Unreleased/unfinished 1995 DoRo Freddie Documentary 85 minutes
Rock Aid Armenia/Roger outtake
He then says: Email drf1820@yahoo.com for prices (nothing over $30!) or make offer
So.....nothing really OVER-interesting in the list. Even if under $30! And a few fakes in there, too.
Although it's not the issue here, and I don't condone what he did to fanthology members, I really hope this ain't all he scammed from them. If it is - and that's all they have - combined with what has already been leaked, there really is not a lot left out there.....
john bodega · Member since
"Queen + Wyclef Another One Bites The Dust 'X-Mix'"
Oh wow, let me go get my chequebook.
dysan · Member since
I've got a better list than that and I'm 12.
Pim Derks · Member since
"Queen - You Take My Life unreleased track (unconfirmed)"
It's a bit of a shame he doesn't have Two Worlds Apart too, as they were meant to segue into each other I think.
tero! 48531 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
OK, so someone I know bit the bait and asked him for his list, just out of interest. The list (which I'm sure has been posted somewhere before on QZ) is:
- - -
So.....nothing really OVER-interesting in the list. Even if under $30! And a few fakes in there, too.[/QUOTE]
What's interesting here is that a list like this actually tells us why QP isn't interested in shutting him down.
This is the kind of stuff that they would never release, so it isn't actually cutting in QP's profit in any way.
A serious bootlegger / pirate would be selling all the b-sides, all the extended remixes, all the concerts, etc... That's the kind of thing that might get QP interested in legal action.
john bodega · Member since
"Queen - You Take My Life unreleased track (unconfirmed)"
I hope the guy who originally posted it to the Remixes forum gets a cut.
Seriously though, is Fuller that unable to identify a clear re-edit of existing songs? Or is it too noisy down in Pit Lane for him to pay proper attention to the stuff he sells?
"That's the kind of thing that might get QP interested in legal action"
It's a real shame they aren't willing to pursue him purely on the technicalities of it, then.
Thistle · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]
What's interesting here is that a list like this actually tells us why QP isn't interested in shutting him down.
This is the kind of stuff that they would never release, so it isn't actually cutting in QP's profit in any way.
[/QUOTE]
You don't actually know that though, tero. I'd agree that some of the stuff on the list is not worth the hoo-ha, but there are still a good few items there that could have been released (and still might) as part of the supposed boxset.
And, again, whether it's actually cutting into profits (or not), is still not the issue. I have to agree with Zeb's post above.
tero! 48531 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]
What's interesting here is that a list like this actually tells us why QP isn't interested in shutting him down.
This is the kind of stuff that they would never release, so it isn't actually cutting in QP's profit in any way.
[/QUOTE]
You don't actually know that though, tero. I'd agree that some of the stuff on the list is not worth the hoo-ha, but there are still a good few items there that could have been released (and still might) as part of the supposed boxset.
And, again, whether it's actually cutting into profits (or not), is still not the issue. I have to agree with Zeb's post above.
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I don't KNOW it, but it's a very probable guess.
We are after all talking about an individual who repeatedly returns to YouTube after a minor time-out, and still keeps the same old material available.
I'm pretty sure that if Queen Productions really was interested in getting him offline, they would have already done so.
Thistle · Member since
^ silly technicalities that we may not be aware of, perhaps - but I think they definitely want, and will have him, shut down. We can only wait and see.
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
"Queen - You Take My Life unreleased track (unconfirmed)"
I hope the guy who originally posted it to the Remixes forum gets a cut.
Seriously though, is Fuller that unable to identify a clear re-edit of existing songs? Or is it too noisy down in Pit Lane for him to pay proper attention to the stuff he sells?[/QUOTE]
The real question is: does he give a damn?
inu-liger · Member since
No, he doesn't. And that's how dirty snakes are.
john bodega · Member since
"I'm pretty sure that if Queen Productions really was interested in getting him offline, they would have already done so"
Might just be that they don't know how to properly work the system. Youtube's appeals process can be slippery in both directions - it's not always the juggernaut people think it is. Put it this way - if a mug like me can get videos reinstated with a couple of emails to Experience Hendrix LLC under the premise of 'I'll take the video down myself later', then I'm pretty sure Dave "Not Now Mom Dale Is On His Final Lap" Fuller can figure out a way to keep his channel going.
The vague impression I get is that unless the property owner is going to take actual legal action against you, you'll get your video back. It's worked that way for me in the past, at least. While it might not be economical for QP to go after him because 'we'll never catch all of the vile profiteers!', that's a weak excuse - this one is advertising his presence boldly and without any kind of remorse. All it says to me as a fan is "I can go and sell Queen stuff illegitimately - it doesn't matter".
So fuck him.
ITSM · Member since
I don't understand why some of you are angry with David R Fuller, when he's "giving" you the songs that Queen Productions won't...?!
Apocalipsis_Darko · Member since
I agree with ITSM. Is only a seller, nothing less, nothing more.
QP and Jim Beach preffer to publish the 105 greatest hits collection than a box set with rareties...Why? Because give them more money. A box set like the FM bx, is very expensive and limited, not everybody can buy it, but a new cd...for the people who are discovering Queen is perfect, for the Queen fanatics who have everything, they also would buy it, etc, etc...Jim Beach only wants money, end of the story. The perfect example is the best of Freddie Mercury, for example...Two only studio albums, and two compilations, and the second with a lot of different kind of editions...So...
