Dave Fuller At It Again

inu-liger wrote:

Don't even bother with what Panchghani says. Even with stated facts backed up by QPL rep Greg Brooks, he'll never change his tune at this rate.

It's done deliberately.

I was not bothered by it until I saw he was claiming something I shared as his own and claimed the plaudits.. Fanthology has had my full empathy since.

^ he's a weasel.

Thistleboy1980 wrote:


There's a difference between owning the stuff that was recorded at live shows by others fans, and circulated via trades and sharing - QP give us the freedom to do without reproach here on QZ - and selling stuff that THEY recorded and haven't yet released.

You mean like this?


http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1349182/one-year-of-love-demo.aspx

and this?

http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1354787/freddie-mercury-michael-jackson-there-must-be-more-to-life-than-this.aspx

Plus convention recordings, bbc recordings, studio bootleg compilations etc shared on QZ.

David Fuller has been around a long time, but only just happened to receive a spate of negative attention after he betrayed Fanthology.

But quit denying it is a witch hunt if that makes you feel better.

bootlegger wrote:

DF for president....how much have QP done to get the cents out of the pockets of their devoted fans?...totally no respect....it started after the death of our beloved one..., remixes this , remixes that..hits this , hits that...and now this controverse about this guy.....and the concerts with the a......s as lead singer..just to make more money..LOOK IN THE MIRROR MY FRIENDS!!

QP hasn't held a gun to anyone's head forcing them to buy anything. Besides, there have been plenty of excellent releases in the last decade or so:

Freddie boxed set
Greatest Video Hits 1/2
Live At The Bowl
ANATO documentary
Rock Montreal CD with Flash/Hero
albums remastered with plenty of unheard bonus tracks
Days Of Our Lives documentary, extras
Wembley first night on DVD
complete Budapest show on CD

That said - they could release everything they have and people would still complain that they're holding something back.

As for Fuller - don't praise the guy like he's the first person to let out rare material. People have been doing it for decades.

Panchgani wrote:

David Fuller has been around a long time, but only just happened to receive a spate of negative attention after he betrayed Fanthology.

Yes, but before then he wasn't doing anything of value, so there wasn't anything to talk about, really.

Thistleboy1980 wrote:

Tero, you are so full of guff, it's unbelievable: when I opened my YT account, and went to upload items, I got a message specifically stating that you are prohibited from uploading copyrighted material, unless you actually own the copyright. Yes, folk still do it, but videos are often pulled from YT due to copyright violation - and YOU KNOW THAT.

You obviously haven't understood how youtube works.

Half of the material on youtube is based on copyright infringements, but youtube doesn't actually care about that.
It's up to each individual to decide what they post, and up to each copyright owner to report any copyright violations.
As much as Queen would like to keep the material all to themselves, it would just cost them too much to have somebody monitoring youtube.

Surely you know that as well?

Thistleboy1980 wrote: You also know that the material he's selling ain't personally recorded interviews: you're just being awkward.

I don't KNOW that after reading his advertisement, and that's the whole point. The advertisement is in no way violating anybody's copyrights, and by itself it's not even close to being illegal.

I'm being "awkward" because you're letting your personal feelings against David influence your perception, and you're expecting everybody else to see it the same way.

An anonymous technician on youtube doesn't have your prejudice, and can only work based on the actual reports of the current account.

^ I'm not letting personal feelings get in the way at all. I don't feel anything towards Fuller either way, but I can still see he's a weasel. I don't expect everybody else to see it the same way, either - we all have our opinions and are entitled to them, but that's NOT what the thread is about. You're being awkward because that's your personality. Don't take something that you perceive as being my mentality and then use it as a reason for your own stubborness.

As for "it would cost QP too much money to monitor YT" - you run their accounts, do you? Whether they can afford it or not, or whether it's worth their time or not is still not the issue - surely you can see that?

I know full well how YT works, and don't need the lesson, thanks - copyrighted material, whether it's fully monitored or not, is still prohibited. getting away with it is also not the issue - but I'm sure you know that as well.

Also, I did not say his advert infringes copyright - it's what he's selling that does that. You can argue the toss all you want, but you know fine well what he's selling. If it was anything legit, he'd say "Brian May exclusive interviews" or something along those lines.

He's seedy and you know it.

Finally, there's no prejudice in saying that someone's doing something they shouldn't be. Once you take the shit you spout away from your eyes, you might just see the point.

fuller, the man who keeps queen interesting:)

Got to give him that. Queen owes him bigtime!

Panchgani wrote:

David Fuller has been around a long time, but only just happened to receive a spate of negative attention after he betrayed Fanthology.

But quit denying it is a witch hunt if that makes you feel better.

Wrong. The first time his account was suspended (some 3 years ago) I was one of the first to say that such action was correct, because he had no rights to be sharing the stuff. (Now he's selling the stuff, which is worse)


That was before I even knew what fanthology was!

So perhaps you should wait until you know what you're talking about before crying witch-hunt (which is what you're actually doing by constantly going after those who say anything remotely negative about the guy).

Thistleboy1980 wrote:
Wrong. The first time his account was suspended (some 3 years ago) I was one of the first to say that such action was correct, because he had no rights to be sharing the stuff. (Now he's selling the stuff, which is worse)

If he was selling copyrighted material as openly as you imply, it would be easy to take legal actions against him, wouldn't it?

Surely the fact that youtube has merely suspended him several times (instead of banning him for good) proves the point that no matter how much he might be disliked, he hasn't done anything bad enough for QP to take legal actions against him.

^ still not the point. Anyway, I'm not implying - it's fact. Continue to argue the ifs and maybes all you want, but legally and morally, he's still wrong.

Yeah, it's the selling stuff that gets me.

And the fact that he actually doesn't know the first thing about the material.

kosimodo wrote:

fuller, the man who keeps queen interesting:)

Got to give him that. Queen owes him bigtime!

No, Queen made Queen interesting: if it wasn't for them being interesting, Fuller would have nowt to sell :p

bootlegger wrote:

DF for president....how much have QP done to get the cents out of the pockets of their devoted fans?...totally no respect....it started after the death of our beloved one..., remixes this , remixes that..hits this , hits that...and now this controverse about this guy.....and the concerts with the a......s as lead singer..just to make more money..LOOK IN THE MIRROR MY FRIENDS!!

No-one forced you to buy it.
You sound very Dutch. Are you?