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The King Of Rhye wrote:

Wiley wrote:

I like it. It could have easily been on The Works as it's just as good/bad as Open Windows, Treat it up or Man on the Prowl. I can see some resemblance with the main chord structure of Hammer to Fall but I would besurprised if that even played a part on it being shelved.
On the resemblance I'm referring to the whole A - D/A Brian-esque cliche also used on Tear it up, AKOM, WWRY, it's late, etc. Although Let me in its not on the same key you can feel the same vibe and it kinda resembles a slightly slower version of HTF during the outtro.


That 'cliche' you're talking about was hardly original with Brian............listen to Start Me Up or Crazy Train (the same chords!)



Bang on, guys.

I'm not entirely certain who first used this riff - Keith Richards or Paul Kossoff in Free (on All Right Now). Any guitar historians here?

I'm not a Stones encyclopedia, but the earliest Stones song I can think of with that riff is Brown Sugar. So is Kossoff the answer? Or is there someone else in the 60s who is responsible?
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Wiley (nor anybody else on this thread) didn't suggest that Brian was the originator of the A D/A A lick; rather that for him it became a cliche of sorts. Which is entirely true.

I'm sure guitarists had been using it for decades before Brian popularised it though, although I wouldn't have a clue where you might first find it on record.
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Bohardy wrote:

Wiley (nor anybody else on this thread) didn't suggest that Brian was the originator of the A D/A A lick; rather that for him it became a cliche of sorts. Which is entirely true.

I'm sure guitarists had been using it for decades before Brian popularised it though, although I wouldn't have a clue where you might first find it on record.


I definitely wouldn't say decades. I've studied the evolution of the guitar intently, and the earliest instance of that particular combination of shapes I've found is on All Right Now. It soon became a go-to for Keef.

Like most things, one of those guys probably saw a guy in a pub do it and said, "note to self - cool thing there."
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The Real Wizard wrote:

The King Of Rhye wrote:

Wiley wrote:

I like it. It could have easily been on The Works as it's just as good/bad as Open Windows, Treat it up or Man on the Prowl. I can see some resemblance with the main chord structure of Hammer to Fall but I would besurprised if that even played a part on it being shelved.
On the resemblance I'm referring to the whole A - D/A Brian-esque cliche also used on Tear it up, AKOM, WWRY, it's late, etc. Although Let me in its not on the same key you can feel the same vibe and it kinda resembles a slightly slower version of HTF during the outtro.


That 'cliche' you're talking about was hardly original with Brian............listen to Start Me Up or Crazy Train (the same chords!)



Bang on, guys.

I'm not entirely certain who first used this riff - Keith Richards or Paul Kossoff in Free (on All Right Now). Any guitar historians here?

I'm not a Stones encyclopedia, but the earliest Stones song I can think of with that riff is Brown Sugar. So is Kossoff the answer? Or is there someone else in the 60s who is responsible?


Now that you mention it, i think i´ve read a long time ago that this style was associated with Keith Richards from the stones. But i think the article was talking about the same chords but played an octave higher in the 14th fret with the open A string - a very distinctive sound. It became a Brian signature riff. He even did that on the final of IWBTLY on the last tour with Adam. And it works great!

I don´t know who did it first, and i don´t listen to the Stones, so i can´t say if Keith uses this riff often or not, but it´s associated with him too.

Hi guys, it's my first time on here but I really need your help.
Can anyone explain to me the meaning of "Tell me what you DREAM AT ALL. I'll hold that conversation for you babe"?? Basically "dream at all"
I'm not sure if I understand it. Well... yes i'm sure. I don't...
I would appreciate your help. Thanks.
Doesn't he sing "dreaming of"? With a very american accent that is.
I thought that before I listen carefully and i just can't stop listenting to an "L" at the end.. so.. i don't think it's dreaming of...But you guys confirm that..
I have a question about Let Me In Your Heart Again.

No disrespect meant but:

The top C in it, well, it sounds very very clean compared to any other time Freddie sang a top C (I'm thinking about when he sang 'just a singer with a song', the sing of singer was a top C). I'm wondering if it has been electronically manipulated or if he was having a particularly good day?

I'm sorry if this offends, but perhaps someone here knows? The reason I'm asking is because I know that auto tune can be used these days, and can be so sophisticated that the end listener would never know it was used, and since Freddie wasn't here to correct any notes himself (if, at the age of 68 he would have managed it, perhaps he would though!), well, you know I'm asking how much auto tune was used on it, that's all.

If it's in this thread previously I'm sorry, I haven't sat and read through the whole thing.
The differences between both C5s is down to vocal modes.

On Let Me In Your Heart Again, he's singing it with more of a curbing technique and on In My Defense - he's using something called distortion.
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Hi Greg, I'm a pianist not a singer, but am I right in thinking that 'curbing' is what is commonly known as 'mix' between falsetto and chest voice, and overdrive/distortion is the full chest voice at the top of the range?
We know the song has been recorded for The Works, but what we hear on the record has been worked on in 2014.

What parts are original? Has John rerecorded his parts? How much is left untouched?


I gotta say that this track is the absolute highlight of all Queen releases in the last 20 years, I cant understand how they overlooked this for Made In Heaven? It is just so beautiful, Freddie sings so so so beautiful. The overall musician ship is excellent as well and makes me so proud to be a Queen fan. I love this band so much.

The song is truly well played, listen to this: http://youtu.be/s-t_l_M6IPc. Despite a cover, you hear how well-written this song is.
The A-D cliche is in fact G-C and transponds later in the song to A-D. But the rest of the chord progression is very original. Freddie lifts this song, what a difference with Anita Dobson. You believe the man when he wants to be in her/his heart again.

I am just curious how much of the release is from 1983 and what from 2014?
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Sunshine wrote:Has John rerecorded his parts?


99.99% unlikely. If he'd been in to re-record his parts, he would have also played bass on "Love Kills" (which never happened)
Sunshine wrote:
I am just curious how much of the release is from 1983 and what from 2014?


I feel like the backing vocals might be 2014 - the 'Your heart again' phrases in the verses just sound like Brian today. Freddie also doesn't sing backing vocals at any point, lending further to the likelihood that Brian and Roger did them in 2014.

The multi-layered guitars might be 2014 - it depends the original track was just a single take demo, or if it's possible that Brian did some overdubbing in 1983.

I don't know about the guitar solo - many people have speculated that because it's kind of similar to that in Hammer to Fall, it's possible that he used the idea in Hammer to Fall once they'd decided against using Let Me In. However, I think it's possible that the solo was recorded in 2014; again, if we assume that the original track was just a demo with no overdubs, then Brian would have only played rhythm guitar. However, he may have then recorded the solo in 1983, and maybe even did the multi-layered parts of it then too. There's really little way of knowing for sure.
We have Brian's (supposedly-)unreliable memory to work with. Or Roger's (supposedly-)reliable one. :-)
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