Lambert and Killer Gay

the dude 1366 wrote:

Ok to anyone thinking negative comments on here are bordering on homphobic...my gay best friend said this video is embarrassing. This is just extra gay for the sake of it. It's not a statement or risque or revolutionary. It is a bad, bad choice.

Sorry to pick on your post when there are plenty of other examples but is your 'gay best friend' also extremely theatrically camp? Do you go to the pub with him in his feather boa? Does he mince along swishing his arse from side to side?

Because referring to Lambert's performance as being too 'gay' implies that all gay men are camp. You're defining 'gay' by using Lambert as an example.

And that is wrong. It's like saying all lesbians are butch diesel dykes or all black people wear grass skirts and are cannibals.

It's not just factually incorrect, it's ignorant and offensive.

If you have a problem with Lambert's performance (as I do), slag it off for what it is - OVER THE TOP CAMP, NOT GAY. Campness may be a feature of a small percentage of gay men's behaviour but certainly not the majority.

There is a welsh rugby player, once the most capped Welsh rugby union player - Gareth Thomas. 1.91m and 103kg of as hard masculinity as you are ever likely to find. He came out as gay in 2009.

A I said earlier describing Lamberts performance as 'too gay' just doesn't make sense.

Masculine gay men are not the minority of gay men. It's just that straight society and media prefer to highlight the more 'camp', 'outlandish'' examples for reason of titillation and childish amusement.

A careless trap that a few people on here have fallen into, offending others into the bargain.

Freddie lived in a time when people, at least in the USA, were seeing gay men die from AIDS and saying, "They brought it upon themselves," or "They deserved it," or things like that. I don't know if attitudes were any better in other parts of the world then, but who knows how Freddie might have performed without that sort of constraint - if he could have been fully himself onstage. Seems to me he did some pretty unique and outlandish things anyway. Furthermore, artists are always evolving. To stop evolving is death to an artist.

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The couch was a 30 second gag at best, I think. Nice prop, but I think spending a whole song there is a bit lazy.

Brian is sounding fucking great. Really bummed I won't be able to catch any shows, mainly because I want to catch him before he retires.

Still think he should sing Tie Your Mother Down though. Just sounds better coming from him. He gets the Author Bonus.

Hello, Z.

I don't think Brian will ever retire unless he becomes disabled in some way, though wandering so far away from home to perform as OZ may not happen in the future. He has so many irons in the fire these days that it is amazing he can embark on a world tour at all, but he is looking and sounding very fit so far. Whatever else you may think of Adam, having him with them to perform is giving them the momentum to get out there while they still can, and the format to do some of their stuff again, as they plainly enjoy it. It just makes me feel good to see them havin' a good time out there.

winterspelt wrote:

Its funny how everybody forgets all those ridiculous, gay and tasteless things Freddie did in the 70s...

Name one, please.

Marcos Napier wrote:

winterspelt wrote:

Its funny how everybody forgets all those ridiculous, gay and tasteless things Freddie did in the 70s...

Name one, please.

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Freddie did everything spontaneously, for fun and entertainment. And he had the style and personality to carry it off! He was an original. Adam just cannot carry off the same kind of thing, and looks as if he is trying too hard. Just goes to show how desperately Brian and Roger are trying to imitate the Freddie phenomenon! After saying Adam is going to bring his own interpretation of their music, and not try to be another Freddie.

Hey! The liza Minelli look wasn't gay to begin with, after all. .. Alice Cooper gave it a shot! ;)

I'm still trying to find the "ridiculous, gay and tasteless" bit in these pics. What's wrong with a lurex outfit for a guy that once used the nickname Larry Lurex? It was the 70's, baby. Elton John was never ridiculous as well.
Japanese kimonos, ridiculous? Darth Vader (or Superman!), gay? Pfft. And BTW Freddie never carried a gay flag with him neither it was his most evident quality or characteristic. Yes, he was "gay as a daffodil", but he never made himself look like a clueless clown because of that.
Adam is just a poor man's version of Liberace, that's it.
I will try as much as possible not to make comments on Brian and Roger's choice once again (they can do whatever the fuck they want, that's not the point), for all that they have done. But it seems that it's just for the money, unfortunately (younger audiences can and might buy Queen records - let's hope none with this aberration, can we? - more than old fans that are tired of the same compilations over and over and over), despite they don't needing any more of it (or do they?).

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GonnaUseMyPrisoners wrote:

Nomination: WORST QZ THREAD EVER

This is off topic but i wanted to ask you about the lyric of Dragon Attack in your tag "...gonna use my prisoners, gonna give 'em the business...'

It always puzzled me. How do you interpretate it?

Marcos Napier wrote:

I'm still trying to find the "ridiculous, gay and tasteless" bit in these pics. What's wrong with a lurex outfit for a guy that once used the nickname Larry Lurex? It was the 70's, baby. Elton John was never ridiculous as well.
Japanese kimonos, ridiculous? Darth Vader (or Superman!), gay? Pfft. And BTW Freddie never carried a gay flag with him neither it was his most evident quality or characteristic. Yes, he was "gay as a daffodil", but he never made himself look like a clueless clown because of that.
Adam is just a poor man's version of Liberace, that's it.
I will try as much as possible not to make comments on Brian and Roger's choice once again (they can do whatever the fuck they want, that's not the point), for all that they have done. But it seems that it's just for the money, unfortunately (younger audiences can and might buy Queen records - let's hope none with this aberration, can we? - more than old fans that are tired of the same compilations over and over and over), despite they don't needing any more of it (or do they?).

My point exactly! Yes, Freddie was over the top in the 1970s, but it was a different time. Look at Rod Steward, David Bowie, hell, even ABBA!

Also, while Freddie was original and charismatic, Adam is not very original and he simply is not the one of a kind performer Freddie was.

Let me use an example. Marat Safin and John McEnroe were both very famous for behaving terrible on the tennis court. But people loved them because of that feature. When some younger kids try to do the same they just embarass themselves.

Stelios wrote:

GonnaUseMyPrisoners wrote:

Nomination: WORST QZ THREAD EVER

This is off topic but i wanted to ask you about the lyric of Dragon Attack in your tag "...gonna use my prisoners, gonna give 'em the business...'

It always puzzled me. How do you interpretate it?

Listen closely to live renditions (the Montreal 1981 version, I think, and other shows) Freddie frequently mixed up the two different lines in live shows by mistakenly beginning to sing "Gonna use my (stack)" for a second time, but then realizes it's wrong, and recovers with "(She don't take no) prisoners", yeilding the odd hybrid "Gonna use (no/my) prisoners". I think it's hilarious. I also wondered if it might be intentional, since it has a wicked sense of humor/innuendo. I honestly can't tell whether he says "(no/my)", so I choose to repeat it as "my" cuz its funnier, seems to fit Freddie's wicked sense of humor.